Merged Their Return

[King of the Americas]

I have much experience working with various stone materials including granite, so your argument is another lie. I mentioned it earlier in the thread. Oddly it seems you're ignoring the people who actually know this stuff and could best help you understand your lack of qualification. That's why yours is an argument from ignorance.

Admittedly, you've been on my ignore list, so I really haven't seen anything you've posted.

I honestly did not know you have worked with stone.

So tell me, how much granite can you move in an hour, and what techniques to you employ?

 

[bruto]

Are you smarter than your Dad?

Are we smarter than slave holders?

Are we smarter than Homo Sapiens?

I'd like to think that we stand on the shoulders of giants, that our ancestors knowledge and intelligence is our to 'grow' upon.

Aren't we evolving into something 'better' each day?

Or do you propose we have always been the same STUCK in this stage?

One thing that certainly hasn't evolved is your understanding. Rather the reverse.

 

[dafydd]

Are you smarter than your Dad?

Are we smarter than slave holders?

Are we smarter than Homo Sapiens?

I'd like to think that we stand on the shoulders of giants, that our ancestors knowledge and intelligence is our to 'grow' upon.

Aren't we evolving into something 'better' each day?

Or do you propose we have always been the same STUCK in this stage?

We are Homo Sapiens. Another priceless one.

 

[dafydd]

In my head, I remembered "mana"...

I haven't read the whole bible, no.

I was raised Catholic.

Catholics don't read the bible?

 

[King of the Americas]

We are Homo Sapiens. Another priceless one.

I thought 'we' were Homo Sapien Sapien...?

 

[King of the Americas]

Catholics don't read the bible?

No, not really. We were told the stories of the bible, and we studied the gospels. But there were no real "bible studies" in CCD classes.

 

[Femke]

I thought 'we' were Homo Sapien Sapien...?

Homo sapiens is the whole of the modern human species. Homo sapiens sapiens refers to subspecies sapiens, that is included in H. sapiens. As far as I know it is the only subspecies alive today.
So you may refer to modern humans as H. sapiens and as H. sapiens sapiens, since both taxa overlap nowadays.

 

[bruto]

Catholics don't read the bible?

As KotA observes, not really. My wife was brought up Catholic, and her religious education was not only woefully deficient in Bible knowledge, but in actual understanding of the Church's own doctrines. She was taught the rules and rituals, but little or nothing of what stood behind them.

 

[bruto]

King, you often berate us for our "willful ignorance," but you would do your own credibility a favor if you paid more attention to your own. You could start by learning the difference:

between sandstone and granite;

between a fallacy and a mistake;

between evolution and learning.

There are a few others I could come up with, but we mustn't pile things on too quickly. Next month, perhaps, hawk and handsaw.

 

[Aepervius]

Admittedly, you've been on my ignore list, so I really haven't seen anything you've posted.

I honestly did not know you have worked with stone.

So tell me, how much granite can you move in an hour, and what techniques to you employ?

Maybe that's ll help.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3284/is_287_75/ai_n28829909/

And yes, granite was also prepared with copper / bronze tools, but production was much easier with steel, and now aday diamond tipped/ abbrasive saw and tools. But it can be done, and it has been done. And roman cut marble.

I sadly can't speak from experience, I only cut relatively easy to cut stone (chalk analogue), but in big blocks.

 

[Aepervius]

Catholics don't read the bible?

Anecdote time : I actually asked, colleagues and friends and family.

From those, no young (*) catholic ever read the bible from start to end. Some passage for mass, yes, some passage for some occasion, yes, but never the fullness of OT+NT. Only 1 old catholic (80) read it fully a long time ago.

That is not the province of catholic only, the young protestan I asked in germany answered the same.

Bible reading is mostly seen as not "important" (not my answer).

I would be my shirt it is a general trend in the modern western society.

(*) age lower than 55 and above ~25. I know of nobody below 25.

 

[Aepervius]

As KotA observes, not really. My wife was brought up Catholic, and her religious education was not only woefully deficient in Bible knowledge, but in actual understanding of the Church's own doctrines. She was taught the rules and rituals, but little or nothing of what stood behind them.

Anecdotial case in point, transubstantitation. All caths I asked thought that what you put in your mouth , and swallow was bread, and the "body of the christ" ritual were just symbolic.

 

[dafydd]

As KotA observes, not really. My wife was brought up Catholic, and her religious education was not only woefully deficient in Bible knowledge, but in actual understanding of the Church's own doctrines. She was taught the rules and rituals, but little or nothing of what stood behind them.

There is an old Flemish saw about the agreement between the priest and the mayor.
"You keep them poor and I'll keep them stupid."

 

[King of the Americas]

Homo sapiens is the whole of the modern human species. Homo sapiens sapiens refers to subspecies sapiens, that is included in H. sapiens. As far as I know it is the only subspecies alive today.
So you may refer to modern humans as H. sapiens and as H. sapiens sapiens, since both taxa overlap nowadays.

Thank you for the clarification.

 

[King of the Americas]

As KotA observes, not really. My wife was brought up Catholic, and her religious education was not only woefully deficient in Bible knowledge, but in actual understanding of the Church's own doctrines. She was taught the rules and rituals, but little or nothing of what stood behind them.

That was certainly my finding, as well.

 

[King of the Americas]

Anecdotial case in point, transubstantitation. All caths I asked thought that what you put in your mouth , and swallow was bread, and the "body of the christ" ritual were just symbolic.

I always told them that Yeshua was actually saying, "Eat and drink wine together, and remember me when you do."

Ritualistic cannibalism is weird.

 

[bruto]

Anecdotial case in point, transubstantitation. All caths I asked thought that what you put in your mouth , and swallow was bread, and the "body of the christ" ritual were just symbolic.

That's the very example I thought of. I mentioned this to my wife some years ago and she had no real idea of what transubstantiation was, nor was she aware that the RC church's idea of communion was so substantially different from others'.

edit to add: this even though one of her best stories of Catholic childhood trauma involves the fact that she vomited her first communion, and the huge guilt trip and rigmarole that were involved when one pukes the body of christ.

 

[King of the Americas]

So why wouldn't the Olympic Opening Ceremonies be a good idea?

Historically speaking, weren't the original Olympics for the entertainment of the gods?

Would there be a more appropriate venue?

 

[Sean84]

So why wouldn't the Olympic Opening Ceremonies be a good idea?

Because it's a remarkably stupid idea to begin with. The venue is irrelevant. Read the thread rather than circle back again.

Historically speaking, weren't the original Olympics for the entertainment of the gods?

Irrelevant. Your wacky alien religion has no basis in reality.

Would there be a more appropriate venue?

Yes. Your backyard. Go. Look up. Have fun.

 

[King of the Americas]

Because it's a remarkably stupid idea to begin with. The venue is irrelevant. Read the thread rather than circle back again.


Irrelevant. Your wacky alien religion has no basis in reality.


Yes. Your backyard. Go. Look up. Have fun.

Ignorance is a remarkably stupid idea, in my opinion.