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uke2se said:
Didn't you get enough of a spanking in the thread you abandoned after being backed into a corner, Revdude?

Why are you even still here spewing this crap? Isn't the holocaust already debunked, according to you, and there's no need for further discussion? Seems if you thought the holocaust was already debunked you would sit back and savor your victory, yet here you are with yet another minutiae discussion.

ETA: To sum up the argument you're JAQing off about - there is no current connection between the ovens and the current chimney, and that means there never was any connection between the ovens and any chimney, and if nobody can show me exactly how the chimney was connected, the holocaust never happened. Did I get that about right?

By the way, Auschwitz hosts a rather extensive archive containing thousands of period documents and photos. If you are interested in how the original chimney was connected to the ovens, that's where you'll find your answer. Of course, it entails leaving the basement and doing some on-the-spot research.
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Spanking?
Backed into a corner?

Are you delusional?

You guys have done absolutely nothing to account for the missing holes other than to say they moved. The roof is relatively intact, which is quite obvious from the image I provided.
The point where it meets the rest of the structure has the most damage and any holes there would be a little hard to find.

There are 8 holes in the roof, but none correspond to the claims.

We can discuss them if you wish, but why put yourselves through it?
Here is a good place to start.

http://www.codoh.com/documents/holes-report.pdf

This is a link to a forensic study done by Danny Keren, Jamie McCarthy, and Harry Mazal regarding this very topic. They performed this research with the blessings of the Auschwitz Museum.

These gentlemen have published extensively at Nizkor, the Holocaust History Project, and Mazal maintains a website where he has an online copy of Pressac's Technique And Operations of The Gas Chambers.

According to the introductory paragraph of the study, the defense in the Irving v Lipstadt trial tried to introduce this report into evidence, but were rejected.
 
Revdude said:
This is a link to a forensic study done by Danny Keren, Jamie McCarthy, and Harry Mazal regarding this very topic. They performed this research with the blessings of the Auschwitz Museum.

These gentlemen have published extensively at Nizkor, the Holocaust History Project, and Mazal maintains a website where he has an online copy of Pressac's Technique And Operations of The Gas Chambers.

According to the introductory paragraph of the study, the defense in the Irving v Lipstadt trial tried to introduce this report into evidence, but were rejected.
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Ah, so you haven't even read the report yourself. The denier who told you the 'information' in your last para probably hadn't either, but the denier that told *zie* that lied. Because that first para in the report states that the first version of the report *was* submitted during Irving's application for appeal, and that it was that application which was rejected, not the report.

Denier "scholarship" in action.

And BTW, that report is copyrighted material -- did CODOH get permission from the owner of that copyright to post this online?


No?


Once again, deniers lay claim to the moral low ground.
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Here we go again.
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And oh yeah, why do you hate jews?
 
TSR said:
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Ah, so you haven't even read the report yourself. The denier who told you the 'information' in your last para probably hadn't either, but the denier that told *zie* that lied. Because that first para in the report states that the first version of the report *was* submitted during Irving's application for appeal, and that it was that application which was rejected, not the report.

Denier "scholarship" in action.

And BTW, that report is copyrighted material -- did CODOH get permission from the owner of that copyright to post this online?


No?


Once again, deniers lay claim to the moral low ground.
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Wow...

One would wish that Revdude started with revising what he thinks he knows about the holocaust instead of continuously making a fool of himself. It turns out he's just another neo-Nazi who doesn't read his own sources. "Master" race, indeed. :rolleyes:
 
uke2se said:
Didn't you get enough of a spanking in the thread you abandoned after being backed into a corner, Revdude?

Why are you even still here spewing this crap? Isn't the holocaust already debunked, according to you, and there's no need for further discussion? Seems if you thought the holocaust was already debunked you would sit back and savor your victory, yet here you are with yet another minutiae discussion.

ETA: To sum up the argument you're JAQing off about - there is no current connection between the ovens and the current chimney, and that means there never was any connection between the ovens and any chimney, and if nobody can show me exactly how the chimney was connected, the holocaust never happened. Did I get that about right?

By the way, Auschwitz hosts a rather extensive archive containing thousands of period documents and photos. If you are interested in how the original chimney was connected to the ovens, that's where you'll find your answer. Of course, it entails leaving the basement and doing some on-the-spot research.
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He is still spewing this crap, for the exact reason you stated. His point was shown to be silly in a multitude of ways. What he is hoping for is that the same people who did it once, won't find it worth the effort to do again, and he can have a thread in which it is less obvious that he is simply trying to rile people up.

Personally i think the 2 threads should be merged, as this is an transparent attempt at creating a thread in which he can just keep saying " But prove to me how *blank* was done. " as people tell him to look at the other thread where they did prove this, and he will say " No you didn't" and the dance will continue.
 
I've read the report thoroughly-several times actually.
I imagine you guys were not even aware of it prior to my linking it for you.
Oh, and the point about the Irving trial was simply to lend a little legitimacy to it for you.
But as always, your total inability to comprehend what we are talking about has led to to yet another tiresome diatribe.

I'll simplify.
The report was written by guys who agree with you...not me.
There's even pictures for the more remedial among you.

In any case I will digress.
If you do not wish to discuss the holes, I understand.
 
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Revdude said:
I've read the report thoroughly-several times actually.
I imagine you guys were not even aware of it prior to my linking it for you.
Oh, and the point about the Irving trial was simply to lend a little legitimacy to it for you.
But as always, your total inability to comprehend what we are talking about has led to to yet another tiresome diatribe.

I'll simplify.
The report was written by guys who agree with you...not me.
There's even pictures for the more remedial among you.

In any case I will digress.
If you do not wish to discuss the holes, I understand.
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Using the above example.

Mr Randi, seeing as i predicted this exact thing ( the quoted individual merely wanting a thread away from where his points were already addressed ), can i at least use this as my preliminary test?

My paranormal ability is to be able to predict the actions of internet trolls. And as we can see, it is pretty spot on.

Thank you for your time, i would prefer my million in cash when the time comes.

Sadhatter
 
Revdude said:
I've read the report thoroughly-several times actually.
I imagine you guys were not even aware of it prior to my linking it for you.
Oh, and the point about the Irving trial was simply to lend a little legitimacy to it for you.
But as always, your total inability to comprehend what we are talking about has led to to yet another tiresome diatribe.

I'll simplify.
The report was written by guys who agree with you...not me.
There's even pictures for the more remedial among you.

In any case I will digress.
If you do not wish to discuss the holes, I understand.
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Mmmm, let me get this straight:

You are saying that some reconstruction of an oven will not function as such.

And this apparently proves that the Nazi empire, the people who built the ME109, the FW190, the most advanced radar equipment of the era, and the worlds first strategic missiles, could not build a proper oven.

And thus the holocaust could not have happened.

- Did I get that right?

Hans
 
sadhatter said:
Using the above example.

Mr Randi, seeing as i predicted this exact thing ( the quoted individual merely wanting a thread away from where his points were already addressed ), can i at least use this as my preliminary test?

My paranormal ability is to be able to predict the actions of internet trolls. And as we can see, it is pretty spot on.

Thank you for your time, i would prefer my million in cash when the time comes.

Sadhatter
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Your glaring inability to comprehend the written word leaves me dumbfounded.
It was not me who first referenced the "other thread".

It was Uke2se here:
Didn't you get enough of a spanking in the thread you abandoned after being backed into a corner, Revdude?

Why are you even still here spewing this crap? Isn't the holocaust already debunked, according to you, and there's no need for further discussion? Seems if you thought the holocaust was already debunked you would sit back and savor your victory, yet here you are with yet another minutiae discussion.

ETA: To sum up the argument you're JAQing off about - there is no current connection between the ovens and the current chimney, and that means there never was any connection between the ovens and any chimney, and if nobody can show me exactly how the chimney was connected, the holocaust never happened. Did I get that about right?

By the way, Auschwitz hosts a rather extensive archive containing thousands of period documents and photos. If you are interested in how the original chimney was connected to the ovens, that's where you'll find your answer. Of course, it entails leaving the basement and doing some on-the-spot research.
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I simply responded to it.
You DO understand that don't you?

I think Randi's money is pretty safe for now.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Mmmm, let me get this straight:

You are saying that some reconstruction of an oven will not function as such.

And this apparently proves that the Nazi empire, the people who built the ME109, the FW190, the most advanced radar equipment of the era, and the worlds first strategic missiles, could not build a proper oven.

And thus the holocaust could not have happened.

- Did I get that right?

Hans
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What planet are you on?
 
Revdude said:
I've read the report thoroughly-several times actually.
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Then why are you lying about what the first para says?
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Revdude said:
I imagine you guys were not even aware of it prior to my linking it for you.
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And just like your imagination of the Holocaust not happening, you're wrong.

Revdude said:
Oh, and the point about the Irving trial was simply to lend a little legitimacy to it for you.
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I'm sorry, you lie about what the report says, and this is supposed to *add* credibility?
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But, by all means, let's discuss the ramifications of this report for your claim that the holes weren't found and their positioning explained by people who don't lie?

And I note you run away from the point about CODOH's publishing an entire copyrighted work without permission.
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Revdude said:
What planet are you on?
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A planet where people ask questions for a purpose. So let me try another way:

You show a picture of an unconnected chimney. We know that this chimney is a reconstruction for show, and was never even supposed to be operative.

You ask us how the original, now gone, chimney was connected.

So the answer seems to be: We don't know. And?

However, I can venture a guess: Most free-standing chimneys are connected through a steel pipe coming out of the house at slightly over head-level, and going horizontally into a hole in the chimney.

This arrangement has certain advantages, which we may discuss if you feel the need.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
A planet where people ask questions for a purpose. So let me try another way:

You show a picture of an unconnected chimney. We know that this chimney is a reconstruction for show, and was never even supposed to be operative.

You ask us how the original, now gone, chimney was connected.

So the answer seems to be: We don't know. And?

However, I can venture a guess: Most free-standing chimneys are connected through a steel pipe coming out of the house at slightly over head-level, and going horizontally into a hole in the chimney.

This arrangement has certain advantages, which we may discuss if you feel the need.

Hans
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In this case you are wrong, the ovens connected to the chimney by under the floor flues.

If you really want to know I can post the architectural plans.
 
little grey rabbit said:
In this case you are wrong, the ovens connected to the chimney by under the floor flues.

If you really want to know I can post the architectural plans.
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That's all right, I take your word for it. Do you also have a guess at the purpose of the question?
 
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little grey rabbit said:
In this case you are wrong, the ovens connected to the chimney by under the floor flues.

If you really want to know I can post the architectural plans.
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Go ahead. Maybe if you do it Saggy/SevenUp will "revise" his website ... Maybe not.

(Not that I mind that Saggy looks ill-informed every time he spams these threads with links to its unaltered content in spite of repeated corrections.)
 
Bluespaceoddity said:
Go ahead. Maybe if you do it Saggy/SevenUp will "revise" his website ... Maybe not.

(Not that I mind that Saggy looks ill-informed every time he spams these threads with links to its unaltered content in spite of repeated corrections.)
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Odd,isn't it. He repeatedly shoots himself in the foot,but yet he keeps on posting. He must think that we are as stupid as he is.
 
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