The VFF Test is On!

VisionFromFeeling said:
The lady FACT member said after we concluded the reading that as I was working with looking into her she could feel a tingling sensation in the part of the body that I was looking into. Of course also I claim that feeling is involved, because I have the experience that I feel the tissues.

Seems like I am capable of cacakoka (See here). I hereby challenge reason1 to a staring contest.

What if I came and said something like this?
So, stop fussing at me. If I fail the IIG Preliminary, the misses are very self-evident and are highly relevant, but also the hits are self-evident. I don't see why I am under so much attack.
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And lovin' ever minute of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiF8md-w-zw
 
bluesjnr said:
Is it just me or on reading her flirt exchange with UY does anybody else get a....................................................................................................................................................................................?
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Yes
 
Just one more day left!

Sideroxylon said:
My source was Wikipedia but you can find the idea expressed in this 1974 speech:

http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm

I like what he says about attention to honesty as a mark of good science over pseudoscience. While reading your earlier post in which you emphasised the importance of honesty this speech came to mind.
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A must read link, Sideroxylon, thanks for posting it.
 
SezMe said:
You do have a point.
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Hooray!:)

VisionFromFeeling said:
You may certainly predict that I would not acknowledge a failed result of the Preliminary, but you just don't know, so stop giving me the consequences of if I were to do so, until I have actually done so. Please.
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There are no predictions involved. As I noted in my previous post, as well as has been pointed out several other times, you have already told us exactly what your response to a failure will be. No matter what the results of the test, you will continue to believe you have magic powers. "So there". We're not speculating here, it is your own words that damn you.

VisionFromFeeling said:
2) I did a "reading" with a new FACT member. She told me she is missing several organs. I only had the chance to get to her once the meeting had ended, and so did not have much time to do a full head-to-toe reading. Starting from the head and going down, I detected that the right ear would have a significantly reduced hearing, and the left ear have normal hearing. I wrote down my perceptions on paper and did not speak during the "reading", and she was sitting turned around so we had minimal contact. I had to conclude on the reading before I was finished. And she confirmed that it was true that she has reduced hearing in the right ear, in fact she listens only with her left ear.
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So you tried reading someone with multiple missing organs, and the only thing you could come up with was that she was partially deaf in one ear. You can see into people's body at a molecular level, zoom around the place, look from different angles, identify different elements, and so on, and we're supposed to be impressed that you failed to notice anything wrong with a body that is missing multiple major components?

3) He was joking about and asking me whether he has various organs (that we can not live without). In the same manner, he then said something which made it sound as if he was stating that he is missing a kidney.

So, even when logically fully believing that the man is missing a kidney, because he said so, my perception depicted both.
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As noted by someone else above and bolded by me, you clearly state that the man was joking about the kidney. The fact that you said he had both kidneys is no different from all the other organs he was apparently joking about. The only reason you focus so much on the kidney here is because you're obsessed with seeing kidneys for some reason, despite it being something that even you claim has only happened once, and not a single other person in the entire world believes has happened at all. There is nothing vaguely impressive or reassuring about the fact that you could tell someone who never claimed to have a missing kidney did not, in fact, have a missing kidney.

Nor do I claim to be able to detect "everything".
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Liar. Do you really need to be constantly reminded about what you claim? To recap - you claim to be able to see everything inside a person's body down to the atomic level, with the ability to zoom in and out, rotate the view, identify individual elements, identify the biological effects of molecules, and so on. But apparently you can't detect kidney stones. Or kidneys. Or, as far as the evidence shows, anything at all. If you're really that desperate to keep playing this charade, at least try to keep your story vaguely straight.
 
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A few more posts moved to AAH, mostly for civility. Let's not make this a regular thing folks, okay?
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
 
I love how, after everything that has been said, she still believes she has synaesthesia, and will resort to that once she fails. Fascinating.
 
Hello.

I wanted to let you know that it looks like the Anita Ikonen Demonstration Protocol will be posted on the IIG website this evening. Once it is online I will post the URL.

-Derek
 
Isn't there a built-in chat on most live stream feeds? Wouldn't that be easier than watching in one window and chatting in another?

Ward

ETA: Like derekcbart said two minutes ago.....
 
derekcbart said:
Hello.

I wanted to let you know that it looks like the Anita Ikonen Demonstration Protocol will be posted on the IIG website this evening. Once it is online I will post the URL.

-Derek
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Thanks, Derek; I'll look forward to that.
 
Audible Click said:
If anyone would like to watch the live streaming video and be with us in the StopVfF forum chatroom this is the link to the forum. Just click Live Chat at the top of the page you do not have to be a member to access this feature.
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6:00AM Sunday morning on the East Coast of Australia if I have it right. Sorry, I will have to pass, but...must... resist... temptation...

Nah! I'll go for it

Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up.
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Norm
 
Anita has arrived at her hotel in LA. Barring calamity, the test should be on. This was the final piece to fall in place for me. I'll be there.


ETA: As far as I can tell, the protocol is not up yet at the IIG. Hopefully, we'll hear from Derek soon.
 
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Excellent, and your timing was about 30 minutes off what I was expecting. I must have a study.

Protocols aren't my best suit, but it looks pretty good to me, except the occasional use of the word 'may' where I would have used 'will' - for example in the measures taken to avoid eye contact between applicant and subjects.

What are the odds against a success here if the applicant relies on chance alone?

Thanks Derek. Thanks heaps.


Cheers,

Dave
 
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