The usual Kevin election post.

[Ion]

But Ion dos prove what a wonderful country the USA is. Even a socially inept semi-literate immigrant w/ poor reasoning skills can come here and find employment. What a country!!

Says the one quarter literate WildCat, who cannot do science in US, so US brings me to do it.

 

[Ion]

Ah. So only early exit polls can be trusted. Exit polls after 3 pm are also proof of a nefarious conspiracy.
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I read that the exit polls after 3 p.m. were skewed to reflect the numbers coming from the voting places.

 

[Ion]

Ion can't speak English very well. It's clear now that he can't read and comprehend it either.

Sure,

it's clear in your mindless head.

 

[Skeptic]

the facts are not dependent on who is trying to make political hay out of them

Actually, they ARE, because those who want to make political hay out of something often claim it is a "fact" when in fact it's merely an unfounded rumor.

and nor does it follow from the fact that "trust fund hippies" believe something that it is false.

The problem here is what is known as an "inference to the best explanation".

When nobody who matters--including 99% of democrats--claims the recount was a fraud, and the only ones who do are woo-woo hard-left guys, then it's POSSIBLE that only the woo-woo hard-left guys figured out "the awful truth" about the "stolen elections", but it is much more LIKELY that the woo-woo hard-left guys are simply falling for a conspiracy theory.

 

[Skeptic]

Says the one quarter literate WildCat, who cannot do science in US, so US brings me to do it.

Whoever brought you to the USA to "do science" should be asking for their money back.

 

[Ion]

Whoever brought you to the USA to "do science" should be asking for their money back.

Spoken like a true Jew from New York, qualified in Jewish scams (religious superstition, greedy usury) but oblivious to The San Diego Union Tribune's 'U.S. in bottom third in problem-solving test' from Tuesday December 7, 2004:

"...The results from the tests given in 2003 show the Unites States tied for 21st among 29 industrialized countries in math, and 24th in problem-solving...".

 

[Ion]

The Democrats aren't crying fraud... Are there any by a real newspaper?
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They aren't?

Because today's The San Diego Union Tribune reads in page A6 under 'House Democrats try to snarl Ohio count':

"...House Democrats are trying to enlist California Sen. Barbara Boxer as part of a...effort to snarl President Bush's formal re-election by preventing Congress from counting Ohio's pivotal votes..."

Do they have electricity now in the swamp where you live over there in Chicago?

 

[WildCat]

They aren't?

Because today's The San Diego Union Tribune reads in page A6 under 'House Democrats try to snarl Ohio count':

"...House Democrats are trying to enlist California Sen. Barbara Boxer as part of a...effort to snarl President Bush's formal re-election by preventing Congress from counting Ohio's pivotal votes..."

Do they have electricity now in the swamp where you live over there in Chicago?

You do realize that there are more than 5 Democrats in the House, don't you? And why are they having so much trouble getting even one single Senator to challenge?

And... wow! Page A6! That's front burner, isn't it? Right after the Girl Scout bake sale story, I'll bet.

Has any real newspaper in the entire USA done a expose on the election fraud in Ohio?

That must be some science you're doing there, Ion... do you take the short bus to work? Just wondering...

There's a river in Chicago, and a lake, no swamp though. But you couldn't afford it anyway.

 

[WildCat]

Spoken like a true Jew from New York, qualified in Jewish scams (religious superstition, greedy usury) but oblivious to The San Diego Union Tribune's 'U.S. in bottom third in problem-solving test' from Tuesday December 7, 2004:

"...The results from the tests given in 2003 show the Unites States tied for 21st among 29 industrialized countries in math, and 24th in problem-solving...".

And I see that Eurotrash like yourself still is number 1 in anti-semitism.

Sorry for jumping in front of you on that one, Skeptic. I just wanted to quote the jackass before he edited it out.

 

[Ion]

And I see that...
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You see?

Since when did you start to see?

 

[Ion]

You do realize that there are more than 5 Democrats in the House, don't you? And why are they having so much trouble getting even one single Senator to challenge?
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Ah.

That's not what you were saying, and I disproved your claim.

So now you are backpedaling...

 

[WildCat]

Ah.

That's not what you were saying, and I disproved your claim.

So now you are backpedaling...

No, I said here that:

...out of the hundreds of Dems in the House, only a few are making an issue of the Ohio vote.

I always said it was just a few.

So, you are either lieing or stupid or both, and I proved it.

Typical stupid woo-woo eurotrash idiot.

 

[WildCat]

I read that the exit polls after 3 p.m. were skewed to reflect the numbers coming from the voting places.

So, you are now claiming that the media doing the exit polls are in on the conspiracy?

 

[WildCat]

On a tangentially related note, it seems that Rep. John Conyers (the congressman pushing hardest on the Ohio "vote fraud") has absconded w/ 60 turkeys intended for the poor. Apparently, Johnny boy's friends were more deserving.

 

[gnome]

So, you are now claiming that the media doing the exit polls are in on the conspiracy?

That's not necessary to the argument. They could simply have been endeavoring to appear more accurate by trying to alter their results to the "real" results. But if the "real" results are skewed, then they are altering their exit poll to match skewed results. No need for a conspiracy, just cutting corners for appearance's sake.

I'm not saying this happened, I'm just making the point.

 

[WildCat]

Reporter: "Rep. Conyers, did your office distribute 60 donated turkeys to families in need as directed?"

Rep. Conyers: "My office is doing a thorough investi- ooh! Look! Election fraud in Ohio!"

 

[WildCat]

That's not necessary to the argument. They could simply have been endeavoring to appear more accurate by trying to alter their results to the "real" results. But if the "real" results are skewed, then they are altering their exit poll to match skewed results. No need for a conspiracy, just cutting corners for appearance's sake.

I'm not saying this happened, I'm just making the point.

But there's no evidence of that in the document linked to above. For your scenario to be true, the poll answers would have had to be fudged. Likely meaning that the pollsters were in on the massive conspiracy, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if a loon like Ion believes that.

Kevin's not a loon, he's just naive.

 

[crimresearch]

On a tangentially related note, it seems that Rep. John Conyers (the congressman pushing hardest on the Ohio "vote fraud") has absconded w/ 60 turkeys intended for the poor. Apparently, Johnny boy's friends were more deserving.

Nonsense!! Obviously what happened is that Bush recalled the Navy SEALS from combat, and had them sneak in and eliminate the turkeys, as a ploy to discredit Conyers, who was the only Democrat refusing to go along with the conspiracy.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Spoken like a true Jew from New York, qualified in Jewish scams (religious superstition, greedy usury) [/i].

Take that Skeptic! You New York Jew you!

PS: Can you let me in on some of your jewish scams? I could use a few bucks.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

The problem is that the means for fraud are now well documented in Ohio, as are individual instances of fairly startling "irregularities" entirely consistent with fraud, and the recount that was meant to sort this out was squirrelled so that only a tiny fraction of the votes were ever actually counted a second time. Those are facts that seem to me to be cause for serious concern, whatever the stereotypes and/or motives you choose to attribute to some of the people stating those facts.

But the frauds perpetrated by Triad - a company with links to the Democratic Party - all went in Kerry's favor! So, you see, it makes no difference. It just made his margin of defeat smaller than it really was.