The TruthSeeker1234 $1000.00 Challenge

[Dog Town]

Don't give them your money for this. I'm sure you have better uses for it than this stuff.

Hey Dave, get back to work, and don't quit your day job! Cuz you suck at this! Just trying to help.....

 

[Triterope]

Yes, the response is encouraging. The suggestion of using a PayPal or similar account is fine.

I need to contact someone from JREF, as I need a deal from them.

I would like a pledge from JREF that the thread is to be titled "The Official JREF WTC Collapse Debate", and that it will be a "sticky" thread, located at the top of the "conspiracy theories" front page, and that it will remain there for at least one year. And I need clearance to republish the thread, in whole or in part, forever.

Can someone more familiar with JREF tell me who and how to contact?

The offer is for one person and one debate. I did not consider how I might choose between multiple applicants. Perhaps the peanut gallery can decide by consensus who they think would best represent the official story.

I also need to do some work clarifying the requirements for the positive position. A summary of relevant evidence is essential, for that is one of the main criticisms we have, namely, that so much relevant data is so often ignored.

First things first. If I can't come to terms with JREF, I'll have to go back to my original idea of getting someone to debate on television.

And, immediately, the backpedaling begins.

Now he has to have a sticky thread. Now he has to be at the top of the board. Not the post has to be up for a year. Now JREF has to meet his conditions, whatever they may be. Now he has to redefine what he really meant by "Resolved: WTC1,2, and 7 came down due to impact damage and fire," which I thought was pretty clear.

What's the matter, TruthSeeker1234, you're only interested in finding the truth if you get the movie rights? None of this puke is of any relevance whatsoever to your original offer, or your alleged interest in forcing a defense of the real story of 9/11.

You made an offer. It was accepted. Either honor it, or go crawl down a hole.

 

[Gravy]

You made an offer. It was accepted. Either honor it, or go crawl down a hole.

Well said. And T1234 doesn't have far to look for a hole. He's been digging one since his first post here.

 

[Horatius]

You made an offer. It was accepted. Either honor it, or go crawl down a hole.

Well said. And T1234 doesn't have far to look for a hole. He's been digging one since his first post here.

Come on, TS! Are you really going to let these guys talk trash like this about you, and not prove them wrong? Let's get it together!

 

[Brainache]

Come on, TS! Are you really going to let these guys talk trash like this about you, and not prove them wrong? Let's get it together!

Playing it as it's dealt I see. Good luck with getting a response from the truthy one.

 

[qarnos]

Come on, TS! Are you really going to let these guys talk trash like this about you, and not prove them wrong? Let's get it together!

If he backs out, who is going to reimburse me for the popcorn I have already purchased?

It's a good think I didn't buy those cigars, too.

Seriously, TS. Stop being a gimboid and put up or shut up.

You had several responses to your challenge which were not "serious" enough for you.

Now you receive a very detailed and completely serious response, which you label "encouraging" after bringing in a plethora of new conditions and demanding that we make arrangements between yourself and a third, unrelated, party (the JREF).

I challenge you to go away and make all the arrangements yourself (it's not up to us to organise your challenge for you) and then come back here and post exactly what the rules of your challenge are with a promise that these rules are final and will not be modified or added to in any way when someone accepts your challenge.

 

[Abbyas]

Truth1234,

You've had numerous acceptances to your debate. Pre-rule change.

And though, yes my second reaction to you was one of humor, because everyone here knows that you won't put your money where your mouth is.

Plus, I can hold my own, thankyouverymuch. You should have seen the recent video before Jon Gold took it down. I have a good serious face.

 

[Christophera]

A "skeptic" does not make claims; he analyzes the claims of others and decides whether or not he is personally convinced by them.

You and your friends have yet to convince me. It would appear some others here feel the same way.

Exactly why those that believe there were 47 1300 foot steel columns in the core area of the towers should try and convince me with proof equal to what the demoliton images provide me.

 

[Gravy]

Exactly why those that believe there were 47 1300 foot steel columns in the core area of the towers should try and convince me with proof equal to what the demoliton images provide me. Please help me.

Correction added.

 

[Abbyas]

Just so I'm on the same page, Christophera is or is not the individual who believes the buildings were built to be demolished?

 

[Dog Town]

IS!

 

[qarnos]

Just so I'm on the same page, Christophera is or is not the individual who believes the buildings were built to be demolished?

He's the guy who thinks explosives were planted when the buildings were constructed...

 

[Abbyas]

He's the guy who thinks explosives were planted when the buildings were constructed...

Why don't we get any of the smarter (yes, I know) CTs to play with?

 

[Christophera]

Correction added.

You couldn't correct the errors I did with someones bogus interpretations of a construction photo of the pit during the towers construction. Another case of someone thinking they had evidence against the concrete core that actually supported it.

FOOTINGS OF THE CORE WALL
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[qarnos]

Why don't we get any of the smarter (yes, I know) CTs to play with?

Because if they come over here, they can't ban us?

 

[Christophera]

He's the guy who thinks explosives were planted when the buildings were constructed...

That is an understatement. The cast walls of the concrete core were engineered to be near perfectly containment for the explosives coating the rebar. The floors had special plates cast into their concrete that cut the interior box columns taht surrounded the core outside of it.

Here is a diagram that explains the concept of built in explosive shear fro the columns.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3240&stc=1&d=1159072520

 

[Dog Town]

 

[Horatius]

Playing it as it's dealt I see. Good luck with getting a response from the truthy one.

Hey, you can't blame me for trying!

 

[Gravy]

built in explosive shear fro

Angela Davis had one of those, and it put her on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list.

 

[LashL]

That is an understatement. The cast walls of the concrete core were engineered to be near perfectly containment for the explosives coating the rebar. The floors had special plates cast into their concrete that cut the interior box columns taht surrounded the core outside of it.

Here is a diagram that explains the concept of built in explosive shear fro the columns.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3240&stc=1&d=1159072520

Hey, Chris, would you mind saving it for your concrete core thread here and on other forums where you've posted the same stuff ad nauseum for the past few years? There is really no need to pollute additional threads with the same old crap.

Thanks in advance.