Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

[Craig4]

If she's a Christian, she needs to pray that there is no hell.

Forget about hell, she's not old enough to retire. Is she sure the owners of Fox News will be the same at the end of the Trump presidency? Fox is figuring out that it's in a bad way with no partnerships with digital providers and needs to sell off components. Does she want her only option to be Fox News, assuming it will have her? If you are a professional spokesperson, I don't see where you go from here. Maybe the NRA? They are one of the few single issue lobbying groups who still embrace the **** you strategy. For Republicans, there's no downside to not hiring her and plenty if they do. Why is she so set on being damaged goods at her age?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

And yet another tidbit about the security clearance kerfuffle, Chris Mathews suggested the reporter from NewsMax set the question up for Suckabee's rehearsed answer.

Sure looked like it when the clip was replayed.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

More from Hardball: the story* started with Tucker Carlson, moved through Rand Paul and eventually to Trump and Suckabee.

Matthews: "Sure looks like a setup."

*Story attacking Brennan and suggesting they were using their security clearances to spread lies and make money. The security clearances had zero to do with anything in Brennan's condemnation of Trump's Putin conference. Maybe Tucker imagined Brennan was getting classified information to use in his criticism of the POTUS. May they don't realize all the information is in the public sphere.

 

[gregthehammer]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/business/economy/trade-factory-trump.html

Yet again Trump supporters show what a bunch of stupid suckers they are. Despite his constant blunders, epic failures and being a barking buffoon without a clue they still maintain faith that Trump knows what he's doing. They feel that in the end everything is going to work out and that they can trust him.

Remember when the Republican party used to be about less government and more self reliance? Remember when they used to preach about picking oneself up by their bootstraps? Taking ones future and fortunes in their own hands without looking to goverment for help? I miss those days.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Remember when the Republican party used to be about less government and more self reliance? Remember when they used to preach about picking oneself up by their bootstraps? Taking ones future and fortunes in their own hands without looking to goverment for help? I miss those days.

A different version of gaslighting, but maybe one that was a lot saner.

 

[dudalb]

Trump Tweets

"The Amazon Washington Post has gone crazy against me ever since they lost the Internet Tax Case in the U.S. Supreme Court two months ago. Next up is the U.S. Post Office which they use, at a fraction of real cost, as their “delivery boy” for a BIG percentage of their packages...."

"....In my opinion the Washington Post is nothing more than an expensive (the paper loses a fortune) lobbyist for Amazon. Is it used as protection against antitrust claims which many feel should be brought?"

I will buy a book on Kindle just as a way of giving Donnie the finger.
And last time I looked, if the WAPO wants to be an advocate for Amazon, it is well within their first admendment rights to do so.

 

[dudalb]

If she's a Christian, she needs to pray that there is no hell.

She does sound like the kind of "Christian" to whom Jesus said "You have never really known me".

 

[dudalb]

Forget about hell, she's not old enough to retire. Is she sure the owners of Fox News will be the same at the end of the Trump presidency? Fox is figuring out that it's in a bad way with no partnerships with digital providers and needs to sell off components. ?

I think for Fox in that last sentence you need to substiture "Newhouse Corporation" (the Murdoch family company). Looks as if, with Comcast out, almost all of the Fox assets are going to eaten by the Mouse,leaving Murdoch with only Fox news and a few other broadcasting items of what is now FOx.

 

[acbytesla]

Trump is the master of distraction.

I hate admit it but Trump did a masterful job this last week.

By that I mean. Trump was ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE in Helsnki last week. So much so even Fix News lambasted him. The US Senate voted 98 to 0 in rebuking him. And one week later we are talking about other things. He threatened long time Intelligence chiefs, Iran, the press and probably released the information about the Cohen tape. And hardly anyone is now talking about him kissing Putin's ass.

Trump knows how to change the subject. Just be crazier in a different way.

 

[quadraginta]

Sarah Suckabee just now: POTUS is looking into removing the security clearances of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Rice, McCabe and anyone else obviously that speaks out publicly against Trump or are just people Trump doesn't like.

I was surprised that the reporters didn't push back: "Sarah, do you claim they revealed any secrets?" Those guys have been commenting on Trump's public behavior and remarks. Nobody says they are misusing on classified information, although that might be what motivates their concern.

"The president is exploring the mechanisms to remove security clearance because they politicize and in some cases monetize their public service and security clearances," Sanders told reporters at Monday's press briefing.

She added, "Making baseless accusations of improper contact with Russia or being influenced by Russia against the president is extremely inappropriate, and the fact that people with security clearances are making these baseless charges provides inappropriate legitimacy to accusations with zero evidence."

Asked if Mr. Trump was punishing those for using free speech to speak out against the president, Sanders said "no", adding, "the president doesn't like the fact that people are politicizing agencies and departments that are specifically meant to not be political and meant to not be monetized off of security clearances."

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That's some high octane hypocrisy, right there.

 

[Mumbles]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44930955

President Donald Trump is considering revoking security clearances for ex-CIA Director John Brennan and other Obama-era critics of his administration.

The White House named six former intelligence, law enforcement and national security chiefs.

Press secretary Sarah Sanders said they had "politicised and in some cases monetised their public service" to make "baseless accusations" about Mr Trump.

Dolt 45 has clearly monetised his own office, using it to enrich his crappy real estate, hotel, and golf businesses.

I'll remind you, the last guy who became president who had a tower with his name on it actually sold his company off to avoid such an obvious conflict of interest.

And I'm speaking of Superman archnemesis and literal comic book supervillian Lex Luthor.

RE: security clearances: this idea has been bubbling up in the usual white supremacist sites - places like Gateway Pundit, pushed by Seb Gorka the fake terrorism expert and fake Nazi associate, and so forth. People who leave jobs retain potential clearances, of a sort, if they choose to reuse them in the near future - basically, it potentially helps to skip the line if you go into another job that requires a clearance.

High-level officials generally don't have to stand in the usual line for clearances, and it wouldn't change what they have to say in any cae. THis *could* be seen as an attempt to silence any critic with a clearance, but most of those are still low-level people who will never be on tv or any such thing, and really, this is little more than Cheeto Benito being his well-known petty and vindictive self, exactly the same as he's always been.

 

[Stacyhs]

(link)​

That's some high octane hypocrisy, right there.

I don't think this administration would recognize their own hypocrisy if it hit them in the face and left an indentation reading "hypocrisy".

 

[thaiboxerken]

Trump wants to silence all criticism against him. Sound familiar? Kim? Putin? All other dictators?

I'm waiting for him to declare that Putin's new fake news law should be passed in the USA as well.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

I'm waiting for him to declare that Putin's new fake news law should be passed in the USA as well.

He already has expressed great admiration for Putin and how he handles journalists.

 

[Foolmewunz]

There might be a flaw in that poll. That is that those voters that previously identified themselves as Republican and oppose Trump may no longer identify themselves as Republican. People like George Will, Max Boot, Whitman etc are not going to appear as Republicans who approve of Trump. Consider carefully that as the party grows smaller it becomes more solidly Trump.

George Will said it the other day. The Republican party is dead. It is now the party of Trump. Its like reducing a sauce in cooking. It is much more concentrated, but it's a lot smaller.

Well, we should see shortly the Gallup figures for party affiliation. Self-identified Republicans were at 27% in the last poll. 90% of 27% is just over 24%. It's the Republican Base.

But the WSJ poll really doesn't show much. He's up 1% in approval from their previous poll and that's in the margin of error. It's also a curiously late poll. Maybe they were saving it for the Sunday talk shows, but the date range for the polling is 15-17 July. The news and blowback from Helsinki only started on the 17th and would not have had much effect in this poll.

I think more interesting is that regardless of all the right wing spin, the right wing leaning poll that had him at -1 or Even a scant few weeks ago is now wandering around in the -7 to -9 range.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Well, we should see shortly the Gallup figures for party affiliation. Self-identified Republicans were at 27% in the last poll. 90% of 27% is just over 24%. It's the Republican Base.

But the WSJ poll really doesn't show much. He's up 1% in approval from their previous poll and that's in the margin of error. It's also a curiously late poll. Maybe they were saving it for the Sunday talk shows, but the date range for the polling is 15-17 July. The news and blowback from Helsinki only started on the 17th and would not have had much effect in this poll.

I think more interesting is that regardless of all the right wing spin, the right wing leaning poll that had him at -1 or Even a scant few weeks ago is now wandering around in the -7 to -9 range.

Oh, and what this shows? That far from being progressive shills for the Democratic Party, the MSM is a whore to headlines. "New Poll Out - Very Little Change Because Helsinki Happened After 2/3 Were Polled" isn't going to sell many corn flakes. "New Poll - Trump More Popular Even After Helsinki" sells more conservative corn flakes (See, I told ya!) and more liberal/progressive four-grain-nutri-flakes (OMG those idiots still support him woe is me woe is me).

 

[Bob001]

A portrait of Trump country:

She always sat in the center row, fifth pew from the front, right in line with the pulpit. Jewell Killough was 82, and as Crum had gone through the first six commandments Sunday after Sunday, she had not yet heard anything to dissuade her from believing that Trump was being used by God to save America. “Oh, I feel like the Lord heard our prayers and gave us a second chance before the end times,” she had said a few days before, when she was working at the food pantry of the Alabama Crenshaw Baptist Association.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-meaning-of-morality/?utm_term=.67a8ea287bc4

 

[The Don]

Well, we should see shortly the Gallup figures for party affiliation. Self-identified Republicans were at 27% in the last poll. 90% of 27% is just over 24%. It's the Republican Base.

Then he should be polling around 25%-30%. Instead he's polling around 40% and even higher.

The Republican Base is actually larger than the 27% who self identify and/or he has significant appeal outside that base. Personally I think it's both. There are people who would never vote anything other than Republican (if they vote) who identify as independent for whatever reasons. There are still people who identify as Democratic Party supporters who think President Trump is doing a fine job.

 

[Jim_MDP]

A portrait of Trump country:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-meaning-of-morality/?utm_term=.67a8ea287bc4

How do you reason, let alone argue, with end times Christians?
These people (%?) are just fine with lobbing a nuke or three(hundred) into the Middle East if it will bring about "the Rapture".
I admit, their numbers are (must? please) small... but their rationale/thinking seems to inform so much Right Wing/conservative thinking.
Color me despaired.

 

[a_unique_person]

There was Heaven: “Most say it’s gonna be 15,000 miles wide and that high,” Jewell said. “We don’t know whether when it comes down how far it will come, if it’s gonna come all the way or if there will be stairs. We don’t know that. But it’s gonna be suitable to each person. You know that old song, ‘Lord, build me a cabin in the corner of Gloryland?’ See, that’s not right. It’s not gonna be you have a cabin over here and I have one over there. It’s gonna be suitable to each person. So, whatever makes me happy. I like birds. So outside my window, there will be birds.”

Yes folks, it's all in the bible.