Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

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Jim_MDP said:
What, pray tell, did Iran say to prompt such a bit of shouty twit blather from Dear Leader?
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Told America to stop threatening Iran.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-to-iran-never-ever-threaten-us-again-11445975

On Sunday, Iran's ISNA news agency reported Mr Rouhani as urging Mr Trump to "make peace" with Iran.

The report quoted Mr Rouhani as saying that "American must understand well that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace and war with Iran is the mother of all wars".

The Iranian leader warned Mr Trump to stop "playing with the lion's tail" and threatening Iran, "or else you will regret it".
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Jim_MDP said:
What, pray tell, did Iran say to prompt such a bit of shouty twit blather from Dear Leader?
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Needing another distraction from the Mueller probe.

Captain_Swoop said:
Surely threatening another country with Nuclear War in the middle of the night is a violation of Twitter terms of use?
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Since he's about the only person in the world actually capable of carrying it out, I'd think so. Personally I don't want him off twitter because then I can watch the decline in real time.
 
Trebuchet said:
He really has serious difficulty in remembering what he said just a few hours ago.
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There's a difference between not remembering what he said a few hours ago and simply not caring about what he said a few hours. IMO, it seems obvious that Trump simply says what he thinks he needs to say at given moment, and at that moment, what he says is the truth. To him, what he said in the past is of no relevance at all.
 
One that stands out was when Trump said, in no uncertain terms, that Hillary and Obama founded ISIS.

He was then given a chance to walk it back, with the interviewer suggesting he meant that their lack of action led to conditions favoring the rise of ISIS.

He replied that, no, he meant they founded ISIS.

Leading to these possible explanations:

1) He’s so ignorant he really thought that.

2) He learned from Roy Cohn the art of the “Big Lie”, which we’ve seen before in recent history.

And the depressing part is, #2 works. Even pointing out the absurdity of Hillary and Obama founding ISIS, you must associate them in your refutation. Which I think helps cement the association. And I’m certain a portion of the American population still believes that Hillary and Obama founded ISIS.

Which I find terribly frustrating.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
He learned from Roy Cohn the art of the “Big Lie”, which we’ve seen before in recent history.
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It's a Gish Gallop. Throw the lies out so fast and frequently that taking the time to focus on any one of them seems futile and pointless.

Being wrong all the time is an amazingly effective debate strategy. Being so wrong gives your opponent no bedrock on which to build their argument.

If Trump says 2+2=5, we can correct his math.

If Trump says a potato is a fruit, we can correct his terminology.

If Trump says 2+2=a potato.... where do you begin?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
How does Trump even have any say over that?

I'm going to wait for confirmation but it won't surprise me if true, Trump is just that petty.
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It's under State. Would you be surprised to know that Trump's lapdog would make a political decision? We're into Survivor Season 2. Anyone who's holding a cabinet position in one of the top ten slots is pretty much a degenerate Trumpskin. Pompeo's a total Koch Roach.

It could've been Trump, could've been Pompeo, could've been just someone in the local Consulate who knows better than to cross Cheeto Benito.
 
It seems that Donald Trump's approval ratings are at an all time (for him) high.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...igher-buoyed-by-republican-support-1532293201

Approval within the Republican Party is over 90%.

All of those people who thought, and said, that Donald Trump's apparent support for Vladimir Putin, and his subsequent clarification of his comments, would damage him politically were simply wrong IMO. President Trump's popularity is impervious to the kinds of things that would finish the political career of pretty much any other politician.

I simply do not understand it - and in particular I do not understand why close to 40% of independents continue to support him :confused:
 
The Don said:
It seems that Donald Trump's approval ratings are at an all time (for him) high.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...igher-buoyed-by-republican-support-1532293201

Approval within the Republican Party is over 90%.

All of those people who thought, and said, that Donald Trump's apparent support for Vladimir Putin, and his subsequent clarification of his comments, would damage him politically were simply wrong IMO. President Trump's popularity is impervious to the kinds of things that would finish the political career of pretty much any other politician.

I simply do not understand it - and in particular I do not understand why close to 40% of independents continue to support him :confused:
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They have locked themselves inside echo chambers where literally anything Trump does is spun in a positive way. Only possible explanation. It's not just that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue anymore, he could probably shoot up a kindergarten and his thugs would cheer.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
They have locked themselves inside echo chambers where literally anything Trump does is spun in a positive way. Only possible explanation. It's not just that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue anymore, he could probably shoot up a kindergarten and his thugs would cheer.
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The younger they are, the more likely they are to be liberals.

So ... yeah, probably.
 
The Don said:
It seems that Donald Trump's approval ratings are at an all time (for him) high.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...igher-buoyed-by-republican-support-1532293201

Approval within the Republican Party is over 90%.

All of those people who thought, and said, that Donald Trump's apparent support for Vladimir Putin, and his subsequent clarification of his comments, would damage him politically were simply wrong IMO. President Trump's popularity is impervious to the kinds of things that would finish the political career of pretty much any other politician.

I simply do not understand it - and in particular I do not understand why close to 40% of independents continue to support him :confused:
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Give them bread and circus, and you rule. If the choice is between in-group power, swag and money versus democratic principle, the former wins every time.

Those who were supposedly entrusted to pass on the lessons of history and the value of democracy, the over 60 crowd, are the first nowadays to line up for Brexit and Trump unicorns and lollipops, dumping the entire post-war security apparatus willy-nilly. That their younger charges have not been educated in the dangers of putting coin before principle, as per WWII, is yet another clear indication that the Baby Boomers are easily the Worst Generation, ever. The West: From hero to zero in one generation.
 
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