Cont: The Trump Presidency VIII

[autumn1971]

I first read that as red light districts and was wondering why it was that Republican held brothels were different to Democrat brothels lol

In republican brothels the johns all wear Putin masks and the whores pay them.

 

[Sideroxylon]

In republican brothels the johns all wear Putin masks and the whores pay them.

And I thought it was just the hypocrisy, guilt and self loathing.

 

[phiwum]

54 to 48 percent of Republican voters in 48 light red districts (Republican held) said that the Republican party was more corrupt than the Democratic Party. 60 percent of Independent voters also came to that conclusion.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/17/corruption-republicans-democrats-poll-728977

God damn... how many of them are there? They've reached saturation, and are bleeding over into the normal folks percentages.


(Sorry... that first bit just reads strange. Is it a range of respondents, or a typo? )

It reads even odder if, like me, you read "red light districts" rather than "light red districts".

ETA: Not the only one, nor the first one to mention the misreading.

 

[phiwum]

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/SkKFOlb.jpg[/qimg]

But are those true? Honestly fact-checked? Sure, they seem plausible, but has he literally signed less legislation than all other presidents?

How much legislation was signed in 1801-02?

 

[acbytesla]

The numbers are interesting but it bothers me a little that this is a poll by the Center for American Progress Action Fund. With GOP loyalty still very strong I struggle to reconcile these findings. It might be that Trump wins Republican's approval while his Cabinet and Congress taking the hit. Finding the right approach, the right message to apply these findings should require strategizing.

And maybe corruption isn't a deal breaker with Republican voters.

Isn't it about time for primary advertising to pick up? I haven't seen much.

I'd take it with a grain of salt. But it might just be a bit of personal honesty creeping in. A sort of admission that of course the Republican party is more corrupt. This isn't news to us. We just still think it is better despite the corruption.

 

[Andy_Ross]

trump tweets

"I had a GREAT meeting with Putin and the Fake News used every bit of their energy to try and disparage it. So bad for our country!"

 

[Beelzebuddy]

I'd take it with a grain of salt. But it might just be a bit of personal honesty creeping in. A sort of admission that of course the Republican party is more corrupt. This isn't news to us. We just still think it is better despite the corruption.

I think it's telling that the bothsidesism arguments have gone from "there are bad people on both sides," to "there are good people on both sides."

 

[acbytesla]

I think it's telling that the bothsidesism arguments have gone from "there are bad people on both sides," to "there are good people on both sides."

There are both. But I see very little good in the Republican party these days. There are still members of that party swimming against the tide, but they are few and far between.

Everything is personal greed and how I can have the liberty to screw those of lesser means. It is telling that although unemployment is low and corporate profits and Wall Street is sky high, wages are flat and the cost of living continues to rise.

 

[acbytesla]

Would or wouldn't? Schoolhouse Rock

Need help with Trump speech?

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump just reversed himself again on Russia. He just tweeted it was all a HOAX. But also wanted to know why Obama didn't do anything about this HOAX. And why his campaign wasn't told (Trump was specifically told when he became the GOP nominee).

Whackadoodle Donald.

 

[Trebuchet]

He really has serious difficulty in remembering what he said just a few hours ago.

 

[Stacyhs]

He really has serious difficulty in remembering what he said just a few hours ago.

If I lied as often as he does, I'd have trouble remembering them, too.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Trump just reversed himself again on Russia. He just tweeted it was all a HOAX. But also wanted to know why Obama didn't do anything about this HOAX. And why his campaign wasn't told (Trump was specifically told when he became the GOP nominee).

Whackadoodle Donald.

Sam Harris has had several guests on his podcasts who point out that this is a classic Russian confusion tactic. Don't tell a big lie, or a single lie long enough, just say different things and present all kinds of different theories so people don't know what to believe. That passenger plane shot down over Ukraine? Some say rebels, some think it was an engine malfunction, some claim it was the US. So if you ask a Russian on the street, they'll say no one knows and we'll probably never know.

I think it's also to give his followers some ammunition while keeping them happy. They can say, see, Trump does acknowledge that Russia intervened, what more do you want?!, while they know Trump doesn't really mean this because he also has denied it countless times.

Or maybe it's to fuel the "he doesn't mean that!" defense. Trump says so many weird things, why do you think he means it when he says X or Y?

 

[SezMe]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...n-summit-walkbacks/ar-BBKT47K?ocid=spartanntp

Really good article about Trump feeling betrayed, angry and isolated. It's a fun read.

My reaction: boo-freakin'-hoo. Reap what you sow.

He's a narcissist. In my experience it's like bi-polar, except they switch between "Yaay, everyone is cheering for me" and the state you just described.

Nice analogy.

 

[SezMe]

From the AP story:

I think it was a bit of a tell that he stumbled with the wording, which had obviously been written down for him by whoever cooked up this excuse.

Q: Yeah, who reads a correction.
A1: Someone who absolutely has to, in spite of his "gut".
A2: Someone who doesn't mean a damn word of it.

 

[SezMe]

Possibly.
I think he really believed he could swoop in and run it just like his "family owned" companies/empire. All his bluster about how easy everything would be, he'd just decide on the best course and tell congress or the agencies and that would be that. Rebuild his own name brand at the same time I expect.

Spot on.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

If I lied as often as he does, I'd have trouble remembering them, too.

Yeah, we see the same things with some online trolls, especially the ones who, like Trump, are incredibly inconsistent.

 

[Bob001]

The new horror: Trumpers don't think Russia helped Trump, and also they are grateful to Russia for saving America from Clinton.

Several people pointed me to Jacob Wohl, a Trump booster with a large Twitter following, who had mused just hours earlier, “If Russia assists MAGA Candidates on the internet in this year’s midterms, that’s not the end of the world.” And others re-upped a C-span clip from the day before in which a caller identified as Mary Lou from Connecticut said, “I’ll try not to sound too awful, but I want to thank the Russians for interfering with our election to stop Hillary Clinton from becoming president. That woman has got illusions of grandeur.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-voters-putin-russia/565592/

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The new horror: Trumpers don't think Russia helped Trump, and also they are grateful to Russia for saving America from Clinton.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-voters-putin-russia/565592/

All I can say is all those normal people that were asleep at the wheel in 2016 had better get their asses out to vote in November.

 

[WilliamSeger]

The new horror: Trumpers don't think Russia helped Trump, and also they are grateful to Russia for saving America from Clinton.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/07/trump-voters-putin-russia/565592/

I've also noted a peculiar thing: About half of Trump supporters were deeply offended when Hillary said that half of Trump supporters were deplorable, while the other half seems to be rather proud of it.