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The Trump Presidency: Part 29

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Thread continued from here. As is usual the split point is arbitrary and participants are free to address points made in previous editions of the thread.
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Trump attacks Benjamin Netanyahu for not supporting him after the election, after everything he did for him.


Former President Donald Trump railed against his one-time close ally Benjamin Netanyahu in a new interview series, saying he felt betrayed by the then-prime minister of Israel's call to Joe Biden congratulating him on winning the presidency.
"It was early. OK? Let's put it this way -- he greeted him very early. Earlier than most world leaders. I've not spoken to him since. **** him," Trump told Israeli journalist Barak Ravid during an April interview which was published by Axios Friday.
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"There was no one who did more for Netanyahu than me. There was no one who did for Israel more than I did. And the first person to run to greet Joe Biden was Netanyahu. And not only did he congratulate him -- he did it in a video. If you look at the leaders of other countries -- like Brazil -- he waited months. Putin. Many other leaders. Mexico. All of them also felt that the election was over. But they, too, were waiting. No one did more than me for Bibi. Money too. We gave them a lot of money and gave them soldiers. We did everything."
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"I paid him off. I should have gotten more loyalty for my investment. Nobody did more for Israel than me. Me. Me. Me!! Me!!!"
 
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Typical, that he should have a tantrum over Netanyahu exercising common diplomatic courtesy instead of personality-cult suicide. I mean think what you will about Netanyahu, but to condemn him for abandoning opportunism seems unobservant.
 
The Trump/O'Reilly "Grift the SuckersHistory Tour" kicked off last night and many thousands came dressed as empty seats.

Donald Trump and Bill O'Reilly's Tour Begins With Empty Seats in Florida—Report

Both Donald Trump and Bill O'Reilly touted huge crowds ahead of their "History Tour." But it kicked off at the FLA Live Arena in Sunrise, Florida, with many empty seats, according to local media.
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Pictures on social media showed the top tier of the arena completely empty, though it was not clear when they were taken, and empty seats dotted throughout the arena.
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But don't worry, there's still plenty of tickets available for tonight in Orlando, order now!
 
shemp said:
The Trump/O'Reilly "Grift the SuckersHistory Tour" kicked off last night and many thousands came dressed as empty seats.

But don't worry, there's still plenty of tickets available for tonight in Orlando, order now!
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I've read that the attendance was roughly 4000 of 16k capacity.
'just find me 11,000 more attendees' - twitterer.

trump's webpage, with no mention of numbers, reads simply: "We had a great time in Sunrise, FL yesterday. Very exciting, informative, and fun. We will be back in the area for a major rally in the not too distant future. See you then!"

Most of his 'statements' posted on the site at they moment are just him moaning about Mitch McConnell and calling him names.

In another report about trump's interview with Laura Ingraham, trump categorised his Jan 6 speech as 'very calming'. (here's the speech transcript if you care)

What's interesting to me about the report is this part, with trump referencing his assertion of executive privilege:
"The biggest loser would be Biden, because if it ever changes, and I think it will, then he won't be able to use it with respect to Hunter [Biden] and all of the things that are going on that are so terrible. So I would think that he'd want to see this upheld, frankly,"

:boggled: Executive privilege is there to cover up all the terrible things that are going on?
 
TofuFighter said:
What's interesting to me about the report is this part, with trump referencing his assertion of executive privilege:
"The biggest loser would be Biden, because if it ever changes, and I think it will, then he won't be able to use it with respect to Hunter [Biden] and all of the things that are going on that are so terrible. So I would think that he'd want to see this upheld, frankly,"

:boggled: Executive privilege is there to cover up all the terrible things that are going on?
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With President Trump, it's always all about projection. If he's suggesting that Biden might use executive privilege to protect Hunter, he's definitely planning to use it to stop one of his brood providing evidence which would incriminate the ex-President. ;)
 
According to local news -- which is paywalled -- but as reported by The Hill, the turnout in Orlando for last night's second stop on "The History Tour" was less than expected.

Though thousands of people gathered in the crowd, the turnout was less than expected for the event which is part of a four-city “History Tour” alongside former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly. Trump's representatives had previously predicted the events would sell out, but on Sunday morning, tickets that were once valued at at least $100 had dropped to $40, the Orlando Sentinel added. The Hill link
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The Atheist said:
In what will likely turn out to be 100% prophetic, an Al Jazeera columnist penned this piece: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/12/12/coming-soon-donald-godfather-trump-part-2
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I've been saying for the better part of a year now that the US is sleepwalking into its own brand of Autocracy/Fascism. What I see going on brings me back to my first reading of the 'Rise' portion of The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich. As the linked-to alJezeera article mentions, AG Garland's thus far "delinquency" really alarms me. This apparent obsequious deference to the Office of the Presidency could turn out to be fatal. Why does America treat its President as nearer to a king than a functionary? Other democracies hold their leaders to higher account.

I've also said repeatedly that a People deserves the Government it gets. If there is insufficient spine among the populace to revolt against the out-in-open, anti-democratic movement that's been underway for a while now, then when Trump again soils the White House you all will have yourselves to blame. Because you collectively rolled over and took it.

The time to rely on the system to correct itself may well have passed. The DOJ appears to be inert where it counts. The SC is stacked with absolutists. State legislatures are running amok. A media machine of momentous import is poisoning minds by the tens of millions. Gaslighting, insane conspiracy theories and bold-faced lies are drowning rational discourse. And now the GOP hardly needs paper over its shenanigans with half-hearted misdirection; their misdeeds no longer qualify as skullduggery.

What are the adherents of democracy going to do about it? It's make or break time, America. Will the Jan 6 Committe save the day? Not on its own. Will Biden wake up, and realize real bipartisanship is dead? Maybe, with a big enough shock. Will the DOJ reform its silly reverence of the Presidency? Not looking good. Will the citizenry light a fire under their collective asses? Ha!

I see a Fall coming.
 
The Atheist said:
In what will likely turn out to be 100% prophetic, an Al Jazeera columnist penned this piece: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/12/12/coming-soon-donald-godfather-trump-part-2
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Lurch said:
I've been saying for the better part of a year now that the US is sleepwalking into its own brand of Autocracy/Fascism. What I see going on brings me back to my first reading of the 'Rise' portion of The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich. As the linked-to alJezeera article mentions, AG Garland's thus far "delinquency" really alarms me. This apparent obsequious deference to the Office of the Presidency could turn out to be fatal. Why does America treat its President as nearer to a king than a functionary? Other democracies hold their leaders to higher account.

I've also said repeatedly that a People deserves the Government it gets. If there is insufficient spine among the populace to revolt against the out-in-open, anti-democratic movement that's been underway for a while now, then when Trump again soils the White House you all will have yourselves to blame. Because you collectively rolled over and took it.

The time to rely on the system to correct itself may well have passed. The DOJ appears to be inert where it counts. The SC is stacked with absolutists. State legislatures are running amok. A media machine of momentous import is poisoning minds by the tens of millions. Gaslighting, insane conspiracy theories and bold-faced lies are drowning rational discourse. And now the GOP hardly needs paper over its shenanigans with half-hearted misdirection; their misdeeds no longer qualify as skullduggery.

What are the adherents of democracy going to do about it? It's make or break time, America. Will the Jan 6 Committe save the day? Not on its own. Will Biden wake up, and realize real bipartisanship is dead? Maybe, with a big enough shock. Will the DOJ reform its silly reverence of the Presidency? Not looking good. Will the citizenry light a fire under their collective asses? Ha!

I see a Fall coming.
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Obviously there are no worries about Trump winning another term. After all, he can't even sell out speaking venues. Or at least that seems to give some people around here comfort, I guess. Dumb, orange buffoon has no chance..har...har...har. Or does he?

My favorite part of the ridiculous fear-mongering opinion piece that was linked?

This is not hyperbole.
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It's like the author was reading my mind as I read his side-splitting spew. I'll agree that another Trump term is not what this country needs, but articles like that are over the top. And I've seen a few.
 
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Warp12 said:
Obviously there are no worries about Trump winning another term. After all, he can't even sell out speaking venues. Or at least that seems to give some people around here comfort, I guess. Dumb, orange buffoon has no chance..har...har...har. Or does he?
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Not many people are saying that. Quite the opposite, it seems that if he chooses to run and is able so to do then he is almost certain to get the Republican nomination which in turn gives him a pretty good chance of winning the election.
 
Lurch said:
What I see going on brings me back to my first reading of the 'Rise' portion of The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich.
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Also “Rise of the Nazis”, from PBS.

https://www.pbs.org/show/rise-nazis/

May be free for viewing via PBS or Amazon Prime.

Of note, the gradual slide from a Democratic Republic to brutal dictatorship. Reminiscent of the apocryphal frog being slowly boiled.

NOT hyperbole, but it’s a maxim that while history doesn’t necessarily repeat itself, it often rhymes.
 
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Not many people are saying that. Quite the opposite, it seems that if he chooses to run and is able so to do then he is almost certain to get the Republican nomination which in turn gives him a pretty good chance of winning the election.
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Winning is a generous term to use in regards to the next election. They are planning to steal the next election by replacing as many GOP election officials with Trump supporters as they can. They want to discount votes against Trump like Trump wanted to do last election.
 
The Don said:
Not many people are saying that. Quite the opposite, it seems that if he chooses to run and is able so to do then he is almost certain to get the Republican nomination which in turn gives him a pretty good chance of winning the election.
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I was more referring to the pedantic comments about Trump and his inability to sell out speaking venues.

If people think he can't win, they need to wake up. I wish he would pass the torch, now. He is a cancer to the GOP, imo...but still a viable candidate, amazingly. Especially as Biden/Harris dig themselves a deeper hole.
 
Warp12 said:
Obviously there are no worries about Trump winning another term. After all, he can't even sell out speaking venues. Or at least that seems to give some people around here comfort, I guess. Dumb, orange buffoon has no chance..har...har...har. Or does he?

My favorite part of the ridiculous fear-mongering opinion piece that was linked?

It's like the author was reading my mind as I read his side-splitting spew. I'll agree that another Trump term is not what this country needs, but articles like that are over the top. And I've seen a few.
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Yeah, everyone let's all calm just calm down and not resort to hyperbolic fear-mongering.

This very important message brought by the person who said this about vaccine mandates:
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So, what is the plan for this? How do you see it being implemented, in the US?

If you are found to be in non-compliance with a vaccine mandate, what happens? Are you strapped down and injected with it, against your will, and then served with fines and/or imprisonment? Will we need to create an armed "Vaccine Enforcement Task Force", trained to locate and capture such people? Sounds a little dystopian, to me.

I'm just wondering how you picture this playing out moving forward, with other vaccines and/or mandates that the government might make.
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It's only "hyperbolic" if the end goal is helping other people.

If the end goal is hurting other people, it's totally rational and calm and level headed.
 
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