The Third Roberts-Fetzer Debate

[jackchit]

Mark has also not claimed to have any professional qualifications. There is no difference.

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

 

[Hyperviolet]

no fact just name calling, you are trying to be the bully but losing even against an insane guy like me.

look at the facts you seem to keep harping on about and the fact is mark roberts is one step down from a bus driver... yet you suckers hang on his every word ... lol @ the dumbo's

Excellent point.

Marvellous.

 

[twinstead]

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

Don't be so quick on the draw; if no qualifications = no credibility then the entire truth movement is toast.

 

[Slayhamlet]

As truthers are fond of saying, why are we wasting time discussing qualifications instead of facts?

Slayhamlet, perhaps you could state a point that Mark is wrong about and we can discuss?




edited to bold slayhamlet's name, as is polite.

I have no dispute with any of Mark's research. I am not a "truther", and I'm not sure how I gave the impression that I am. I am merely countering jack's bizarre logic.

 

[~enigma~]

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

Shpw us where he made the claim to be an expert. IOW, put up or shut up with your inane rabble.

 

[VespaGuy]

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

You keep saying this. It would certainly help your arguement if you could provide evidence of something that Mark Roberts got wrong in his debate with Fetzer.

Oh, and welcome to the forums.

 

[Brainache]

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

The only caption that I saw under Mark said "9/11 Researcher". Are you saying Mark hasn't done a lot of research on 9/11?

Are you saying the captions should only list things people get paid for?

Should Fetzer's caption have been "Fiction Author" or "Pensioner"?

 

[twinstead]

I have no dispute with any of Mark's research. I am not a "truther", and I'm not sure how I gave the impression that I am. I am merely countering jack's bizarre logic.

Yea, I figured that out. I misread your posts. My apology.

 

[jackchit]

I am referring to the fat stupid man as uncle Fester...deal with it and answer the question.

Wow...do you read any of the other threads? Mark seemed ready to jump an attack me and I wasn't about to back down. Turned out I mistook his actions and he mistook my reading ability. How is that hanging on his every word? Can't you come up with something original or are you just going to sling old recycled woo crap our way?

So can we be assured in that next time roberts appears on one of these debates the caption will read Mark Roberts tour guide? of course not as that will not score you any points, unless i'm mistaken and he has a degree in debunking from an acredited university. I think not, so tour guide 0... guy with real qualifications 1.
unless you are suggesting fetzer's qualifications are fake i'm afraid you lose, sorry.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Yes there is a difference, I have never claimed to be a 911 expert but roberts has by offering himself for shows like the joke we have seen.
yet he shows people the way to the toilet and yet this is evidence.
the shows should have a disclaimer saying "mark roberts has no qualifications pertaining to the things he claims to be an expert on" no qualifications = no credibility.
I think we can all agree on that

Wrong. He has no professional qualifications, and neither does Fetzer. But his copious research is clearly evident to anyone who bothers to look. Likewise Fetzer's research (I use that term loosely) can be found on his "Scholars for Truth" website, and in the book he's hawking. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Fetzer has some sort of professional qualification that Mark does not. He doesn't. Being a "scholar for truth" does not make him a professional in any of the fields relevant to the events of 9/11.

 

[~enigma~]

So can we be assured in that next time roberts appears on one of these debates the caption will read Mark Roberts tour guide? of course not as that will not score you any points, unless i'm mistaken and he has a degree in debunking from an acredited university. I think not, so tour guide 0... guy with real qualifications 1.
unless you are suggesting fetzer's qualifications are fake i'm afraid you lose, sorry.

You know you really are being sensless. Did the Jref forum put any caption up on Hardfire? Take your complaint to Ron but just understand that it is stupid (and your a liar - you can still log in at LCF where you are "IP banned").

 

[~enigma~]

Being a "scholar for truth" does not make him a professional in any of the fields relevant to the events of 9/11.

Just thought this needs to be repeated and possibly made into a signature for jackchit

 

[Slayhamlet]

So can we be assured in that next time roberts appears on one of these debates the caption will read Mark Roberts tour guide? of course not as that will not score you any points, unless i'm mistaken and he has a degree in debunking from an acredited university. I think not, so tour guide 0... guy with real qualifications 1.
unless you are suggesting fetzer's qualifications are fake i'm afraid you lose, sorry.

Please elaborate on Fetzer's qualifications concerning the events of 9/11 and how those qualifications relate to his profession.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Yea, I figured that out. I misread your posts. My apology.

No problem.

 

[jackchit]

So you all agree that the next time roberts appears on these "shows" his real credentials IE tour guide should be displayed for everyone to see?

 

[Slayhamlet]

So you all agree that the next time roberts appears on these "shows" his real credentials IE tour guide should be displayed for everyone to see?

No. If whatever particular show wants to mention that he's a NYC tour guide, then that's fine. It is not required or necessary, however.

Plan on making any real arguments, jack?

 

[Disbelief]

So you all agree that the next time roberts appears on these "shows" his real credentials IE tour guide should be displayed for everyone to see?

So, are you going to say anything useful or just ramble on about dumb stuff. Obviously you bring nothing new to the table, so you fall back on criticizing someone's profession.

 

[twinstead]

So you all agree that the next time roberts appears on these "shows" his real credentials IE tour guide should be displayed for everyone to see?

Again. Perhaps you could actually address any problems you have with Robert's points rather than harping on qualifications? Because you must be aware now that Fetzer has no more qualifications in relevant fields concerning 911 than the tour guide.

The sooner you can provide true expert's rebuttals of Robert's points the sooner you can keep what little credibility you have.

 

[jackchit]

No. If whatever particular show wants to mention that he's a NYC tour guide, then that's fine. It is not required or necessary, however.

Plan on making any real arguments, jack?

So what you are saying is that you will not post roberts qualifications right?
I am happy with you calling fetzer a kook or whatever you want but the only person you have to rebutt this guy is a tour guide?
I gotta say you have me backed into a corner, no wait you can lie about roberts qualifications? he is a tour guide plain and simple hold on one second.....
"James H. Fetzer was born in Pasadena, California in 1940, and attended South Pasadena High School where he received The Carver Award for leadership. After completing high school, he went on to study philosophy at Princeton University and graduated magna cum laude in 1962. After four years as a commissioned officer in the Marine Corps, he resigned his commission as a Captain to begin graduate work at Indiana University. In 1970 he completed his Ph.D. in the history and philosophy of science.

Fetzer taught at various schools including the University of Kentucky, the University of Virginia (twice) and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill before he received tenure at the University of Minnesota Duluth, where he taught from 1987 until his retirement in June 2006.[3]

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yeah right that is much less a body of work than a tour guide, and this is your best man.... lol

 

[jackchit]

Again. Perhaps you could actually address any problems you have with Robert's points rather than harping on qualifications? Because you must be aware now that Fetzer has no more qualifications in relevant fields concerning 911 than the tour guide.

The sooner you can provide true expert's rebuttals of Robert's points the sooner you can keep what little credibility you have.

Thank you, so when the next debate happens the caption will say "mark roberts tour guide" right? thats all i'm asking a little bit of transparency.
You need to be honest or your argument falls flat on its face.