The supernatural

[heydarian saeed]

The material discovered in the Qur'an indicates that the narrator of this scientific material, of which human society has been unaware for the past one and a half centuries, must be a person who has an extremely high scientific aristocracy over the entire universe. And surround the world with the greatness of the universe. It is interesting to me that; The Qur'an contains 114 sections (surahs) and 6236 paragraphs (verses) and each of them expresses scientific content in the following fields: astronomy - physics - chemistry - medicine - psychology - industry - metallurgy - history - economics - humanities - social sciences - sciences Family and ... more interestingly, 70% of its content is about "nature"!

 

[heydarian saeed]

Did they bring out Pharaoh's food after a hundred years, not 3,000 years, to see if it has changed or not and is healthy or rotten? You have mixed and answered something other than what the Qur'an says with another story that is different.

 

[Lothian]

These words are true in the Qur'an. And it does not come from my imagination. The Qur'an speaks of nature and existence, not of dreams and imagination. Makes scientific and documentary predictions. It leads man to progress and discover the unknown.
I am not talking about the mosque and the lessons of religious rules. Like you, I speak of the Qur'an with the knowledge of the day.

Even if we accepted that the Quran made accurate predictions (we don't) how is that evidence of the supernatural? There is a whole genre of novels, scifi, that have predicted what might be possible. Well before the actual s fence was discovered. The difference between scifi and the Qur'an is that scifi is more specific.

Tell me why the author of the Quran was not talking about walking on ice or walking on water as Jesus "did' centuries before. Tell me why it had to be referring to laminated glass.
How did Qur'an scholars interpret that passage before toughened glass was invented? Why were all those scholars wrong and why are you right?

 

[Lothian]

Did they bring out Pharaoh's food after a hundred years, not 3,000 years, to see if it has changed or not and is healthy or rotten? You have mixed and answered something other than what the Qur'an says with another story that is different.

Did they bring out the food you mentioned and found it ok? What evidence do you have it happened. You seemed to suggest it was just a story and not fact. If it was fact and it came out after 100 years and it was fine and it had not been stored in a tin it can not be a prediction of canning.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Hello. Thank you. wait. You do no harm. And you do not lose anything. And I apologize to you for taking the time to read the Qur'an. These are the preliminaries to achieve the main goal. Unless you and your friends in the community want to see the supernatural and be proven. Wait until the end of the article.

Neither I nor my friends in the community want to see the supernatural and be proven. I really don't want to be proven. I don't even know what that is. Sounds like some kind of gay sadomasochistic thing. That means I certainly don't want to "wait until the end".

But do whatever you like, man. You be you. Get supernatural with your "friends in the community" in the sonic pumping laboratories to turn your rocks off on some medieval predictions like a rocket profit from heaven. I'm allah right with that.

 

[Lothian]

. I will tell you the verse about how the Big Bang happened, and that the Qur'an is more accurate than today's scientists! In the seventh century !!

How do you know the Qur'an is more accurate in describing the big bang than modern science?

To say one thing is more accurate than another you need to have a "correct answer' to compare both against. What are you comparing the two theories against?

 

[turingtest]

Did they bring out Pharaoh's food after a hundred years, not 3,000 years, to see if it has changed or not and is healthy or rotten? You have mixed and answered something other than what the Qur'an says with another story that is different.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Do you accept science? What is the science of physics and metaphysics? What are parallel worlds? Aren't these real? where are they? Where is the border between these worlds? What is dark matter and dark energy? What is the definition of science for these? Do you doubt their existence?

 

[heydarian saeed]

My conversation language is Persian. Perhaps I have not been able to express my meaning of the Qur'an correctly and completely. So the problem is with me, not with what is said in the Qur'an. In this regard, I apologize for not being completely familiar with your corrections and language. I think we share a common belief: "Everyone can express their thoughts and opinions quite freely." And freedom of expression should not be challenged. Or insulted. Everyone has the right to choose. Thanks

 

[heydarian saeed]

In the Qur'an, he has stated the basis of freedom of thought and expression. And I follow it. He says: Compulsion is not a matter of religion or belief. And all the ways, whether good or bad, are marked. Everyone is free to choose (Surat al-Baqara, verse 256)

 

[heydarian saeed]

Hello and thank you for your kind comment. I totally agree that the text of my article should be translated into scientific English. But I have little time. And it takes time. Thank you very much again.

 

[heydarian saeed]

... !!! In the story and history of Suleiman, it is said that water flows in the basement of the stream. (Old Testament book) The queen enters and worries that her skirt and legs will not get wet, so she raises her skirt. Also, the word "sarah" in Arabic means glass (made of glassware). What glass is used on the floor of the building? Is it ordinary glass that breaks! So the floor glass of the palace was unbreakable. This is said to provoke you and me to find out what kind of floor this palace building was made of? And get motivated to make it. Make unbreakable glass. This has been made quite clear in order to understand the essence of the matter.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

The Quran isn't a documentary of...well anything. The Hadith is closer given it's stories about Muhammed's life, but the Quran is contradicted by history and science too often to be reliable.

If the Quran predicted/discussed scientific discoveries only formulated in the last hundred years, why does it constantly refer to the Earth being flat when we knew that wasn't the case since Ancient Greece?

Well?

 

[heydarian saeed]

If Quranic words have up to ten meanings, why does it mean ONLY the one meaning you want?

For example, you say Tariq and Najm Saqib means neutron star, space black hole, astronomical pulse and even other meanings. What OTHER meanings does it have? Why did you choose only just the one meaning you wanted to support your thesis?

Dear friend of the association; You have the right to choose and you can choose other meanings of the word. But keep in mind the goal. It wants to motivate us to explore science and the unknown. He wants to motivate us to always progress and evolve by achieving science. Is this a good idea and thought?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Dear friend of the association; You have the right to choose and you can choose other meanings of the word. But keep in mind the goal. It wants to motivate us to explore science and the unknown. He wants to motivate us to always progress and evolve by achieving science. Is this a good idea and thought?

No it doesn't. The Quran constantly refers to the earth as being flat and orbited by the sun. Neither of those things is true.

Why should we care what the Quran says anyway? You first have to show evidence that Allah is real in order to say the Quran is his word.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Well?

No. Unfortunately

 

[MarkCorrigan]

No. Unfortunately

No what? The points I made were not yes or no questions.

Why does the Quran refer to the earth as being flat when humans in Ancient Greece had already worked out that it was not?

Why does it refer to the sun orbiting the earth when it does not?

Why is the Quran so often contradicted by science and history?

If you want to claim the Quran to be some authority on science you have to explain why it makes such basic errors.

 

[heydarian saeed]

No it doesn't. The Quran constantly refers to the earth as being flat and orbited by the sun. Neither of those things is true.

Why should we care what the Quran says anyway? You first have to show evidence that Allah is real in order to say the Quran is his word.

I will definitely tell you that; There is a God. And whatever He is, He has created. I will tell you and prove it in the language of science, logic and reason. wait. Of course, I have told you a series of evidences and contents from his book Quran. One question: Who knew the sciences that were discovered in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries and all its dimensions have not yet been discovered in the seventh century and said in his book? Introduce it to me. Thanks

 

[heydarian saeed]

No what? The points I made were not yes or no questions.

Why does the Quran refer to the earth as being flat when humans in Ancient Greece had already worked out that it was not?

Why does it refer to the sun orbiting the earth when it does not?

Why is the Quran so often contradicted by science and history?

If you want to claim the Quran to be some authority on science you have to explain why it makes such basic errors.

The Qur'an never says that the earth is flat. Look at this verse: God of the West and the East. (Surah Ar-Rahman, verse 17) In what state does the earth have the west and the east? In geometry, only the sphere and the spherical body can have this property. So the Qur'an says the earth is spherical, not flat.
Where does the Qur'an say the sun revolves around the earth? Tell me the address of the surah and verse so that I can check and answer for you. Thanks.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

I will definitely tell you that; There is a God.

Then show some evidence for one and I will believe in him.

And whatever He is, He has created. I will tell you and prove it in the language of science, logic and reason.

Then do so. Don't tell me what you are going to do, do it.

wait. Of course, I have told you a series of evidences and contents from his book Quran.

No, you've given retrofitted interpretations of the Quran. None of this is evidence.

The Quran says the Earth is flat and is orbited by the Sun. This is nonsense, we know it's nonsense. How can a book which you claim predicted astrophysics on the level of black holes get such simple things about science wrong?

One question: Who knew the sciences that were discovered in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries and all its dimensions have not yet been discovered in the seventh century and said in his book?

That isn't how it works. You can't provide evidence that people did not know something, you provide evidence that they did. There are no documents from the 7th century that propose any modern scientific discoveries. None. The Quran certainly doesn't because it includes gibberish like the mountains holding down the earth to stop it from shaking like tent pegs.

If you think that people in the 7th century had discovered great scientific advancements like quantum physics then you have to show it. Provide evidence. Your blatant retrofitting of Quranic passages to try and shoehorn them in to modern science is not evidence.