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The Solution to the Palestine Problem

Skeptic said:
That two weeks later, a Palestinian terrorist organization calling for the destruction of the "illegal Zionist entity" in "Occupied Nevada" will start hijacking planes and blowing people up.
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BS. The Palestinians wouldn't care any longer. But I'm not that sure about a NLO if the Israelis would kick Nevadans out of their homes and state without any compensations or fair alternatives.
 
BPSCG said:
I beg your pardon; could you please show me where I called for ethnic cleansing?
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Well, casually speaking (as in not throwing accusations), removing a people as a whole, even if simply relocating them and not killing them, can count as ethnic cleansing in this case.

This is why I don't support the idea of Israelis being removed from the land along with not supporting the Palestinians being removed-- it walks too fine a line for me to be comfortable with on a personal level. The Palestinians have as much right to live there as the Israelis, and in all honesty whenever I try to look at the base causes for the violence between Palestine and Israel it always seems to boil down to land rights, which would make removing one side or the other tantamount to solving the violence problem by arbitrarily choosing one side of the dispute as the 'winner' and physically removing the 'loser' physically from their home. Considering the base causes for the fighting and the general outlook of the Palestinians and Israelis on the conflict, I just don't think it's really a tenable solution.
 
The solution to the Palestine problem is this:

both sides get their heads out of their @$$#$ and start behaving like human beings towards one another. and let go of these foolish superstitions.
 
GreNME said:
Well, casually speaking (as in not throwing accusations), removing a people as a whole, even if simply relocating them and not killing them, can count as ethnic cleansing in this case.
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Except that nobody said anything about "removing" anyone; the author says western nations should "consider offering immigration."

And nobody said anything about removing any "people as a whole;" the author says immigration should be offered to "those young Palestinians only born because of the West's well-meant but cruelly misguided aid."

Apart from that, I guess that would qualify as "ethnic cleansing."

It's a stupid idea, regardless. I prefer that we offer immigration to people whose skills we need.
 
parky76 said:
The solution to the Palestine problem is this:

both sides get their heads out of their @$$#$ and start behaving like human beings towards one another. and let go of these foolish superstitions.
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Good luck with that Parky!
 
parky76 said:
The solution to the Palestine problem is this:

both sides get their heads out of their @$$#$ and start behaving like human beings towards one another. and let go of these foolish superstitions.
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They are acting like human beings. Both sides, pretty much.

Perhaps you meant: Start behaving like parky76 and give each side a good talking-to! Certain to solve the problem.
 
parky76 said:
Two states. Israel within the slightly adjusted 1967 borders..and Palestine with slightly adjusted West Bank borders. This is the only way.
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Because this worked oh so well in 67...
 
SRW said:
Because this worked oh so well in 67...
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Israel gave up the entire Sinai peninsula in 1979. Israel and Egypt have been at peace since then.

If it can happen with Egypt..it can happen with the Palestinians.

Land for Peace DOES work.




....I can already here the right-wing Zionists: "But but but but!!!!!!!"
 
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BPSCG said:
So how do we bring about peace in Gaza? Let these angry, violent, unskilled young men emigrate to the west!
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Seems plausible. If the immigrants are reasonably spread out, (if they all decided to moved to a little Gazatown in New York then bad things could easily happen, since the social problems would just get shipped over with them) then if they remained violent then it would be far more dilluted, and would probably produce a net reduction in violence overall, while giving Israel and Palestine a bit more breathing room for them to get around to "get their heads out of their @$$#$ and start behaving like human beings towards one another."
 
parky76 said:
Israel gave up the entire Sinai peninsula in 1979. Israel and Egypt have been at peace since then.

If it can happen with Egypt..it can happen with the Palestinians.

Land for Peace DOES work.




....I can already here the right-wing Zionists: "But but but but!!!!!!!"
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Nice. Any response that disagrees with you is already preempted by "but but but but."

Tell me, is it a war crime to go around poisoning wells?
 
Skeptic said:
That two weeks later, a Palestinian terrorist organization calling for the destruction of the "illegal Zionist entity" in "Occupied Nevada" will start hijacking planes and blowing people up.
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You really think this would happen?
 
69dodge said:
You really think this would happen?
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Cosidering that Hamas' ideology is that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" about a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world... and that its Islamist ideology is that Islam should rule the world everywhere... and that my grandfather was hounded by Jew-haters out of Europe because he "doesn't belong there" and must "go back where he came from"... and that the Mufti, the founder of Palestinian nationalism, had begged Hitler and Himmler to speed up the holocaust in Europe...

...why, yes, I do think that just thatwould happen.

The Palestinians, now rid of the Jews, would be in the forefront of advising and instigating the local neo-Nazis and Klan groups in forming terrorist organizations to kill Jews randomly, as a way to destroy the "Zionist entity" of Nevada, just like it was destroyed in Palestine.

The reason for this would be twofold: first, as Hamas says, Islam must rule the world and the Jewish pig-dogs converted or killed; second, as the Mufti said to Hitler, the existence of Jews anywhere in the world is a threat to the Palestinians, lest they try to move and "occupy Palestine".

So the Palestinian goal--the destruction of the Jews--will remain the same, and the methods--terrorism--will remain the same. Only the location will change.
 
Skeptic said:
Cosidering that Hamas' ideology is that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" about a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world... and that its Islamist ideology is that Islam should rule the world everywhere... and that my grandfather was hounded by Jew-haters out of Europe because he "doesn't belong there" and must "go back where he came from"... and that the Mufti, the founder of Palestinian nationalism, had begged Hitler and Himmler to speed up the holocaust in Europe...

...why, yes, I do think that just thatwould happen.

The Palestinians, now rid of the Jews, would be in the forefront of advising and instigating the local neo-Nazis and Klan groups in forming terrorist organizations to kill Jews randomly, as a way to destroy the "Zionist entity" of Nevada, just like it was destroyed in Palestine.

The reason for this would be twofold: first, as Hamas says, Islam must rule the world and the Jewish pig-dogs converted or killed; second, as the Mufti said to Hitler, the existence of Jews anywhere in the world is a threat to the Palestinians, lest they try to move and "occupy Palestine".

So the PalestinianHamas goal--the destruction of the Jews--will remain the same, and the methods--terrorism--will remain the same. Only the location will change.
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you are paranoid
 
BPSCG said:
Paranoia is an unreasonable fear that people are trying to kill you. Are you going to argue today's Jews have nothing to fear from virulent antisemitism?
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fear of Hamas is reasonable, fear of Palestinains in general?
 
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