The Skeleton Key to Mystical Interpretation

Limbo said:
If the intent is to check, then thats what the magic will do. Its about intent. If you intend for an effect that is overt and strong enough to provide you with a means of checking, then thats what you will get.
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How do you know your true intent?
 
Limbo said:
If the intent is to check, then thats what the magic will do.
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Doesn't happen.

Its about intent. If you intend for an effect that is overt and strong enough to provide you with a means of checking, then thats what you will get
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Doesn't happen.

Just be prepared to be freaked out, or your own mental weakness will be an inhibitive effect.
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Catch-all excuse.

Sorry, Limbo, this is made of 100% pure fail.
 
Limbo said:
If the intent is to check, then thats what the magic will do. Its about intent. If you intend for an effect that is overt and strong enough to provide you with a means of checking, then thats what you will get. Just be prepared to be freaked out, or your own mental weakness will be an inhibitive effect.
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That doesn't make any sense to me. I need something beyond my own subjective experience in order to make an objectively valid conclusion.
 
D'rok said:
Not really. It seems to me like I'm grounded.
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You seem to value the ways things seem, a bit too much I think. :p

Oh well, maybe you'll grok in your next lifetime. I'll pray for you.
 
Limbo said:
You seem to value the ways things seem, a bit too much I think. :p

Oh well, maybe you'll grok in your next lifetime. I'll pray for you.
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What privileges how things seem to you over how things seem to me?
 
Limbo said:
You seem to value the ways things seem, a bit too much I think.
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Not at all. We constantly test and verify how things are - that is, how they behave. We've had to discard - or at lest, rethink - most of how things seem as we've acquired a deeper understanding of physics.

But that's what you get for aligning your understanding of reality with reality itself. You're attempting the opposite, which doesn't work.

Oh well, maybe you'll grok in your next lifetime.
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No such thing.

I'll pray for you.
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Does nothing.
 
My favorite use of "nothing is true, everything is permitted" comes from the video game Assassin's Creed. In this game, it is revealed that all religion and spiritualism is a fraud, used to control the ignorant masses through a global conspiracy spanning thousands of years. The assassins are a group dedicated to exposing and opposing this fraud, in the name of absolute truth. Whatever means necessary is approved to expose the lies of religion. It's a fun game, and I happen to enjoy in the way it presents the truth, and what these people strive to create. It's one of the more interesting games I've played in a long while.

It's a bit ironic to see the phrase used for the exact opposite of the creed, but it's of course an older phrase than the video game's context, and it's historical origins lend itself to mysticism. I think it's novel that Ubisoft chose to use it in the context that they did.
 
D'rok said:
What privileges how things seem to you over how things seem to me?
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What...?

D'rok, dude I wish I could show you what privileges how things seem to me. But I can't. I can only point you to the way I took to get to where I am. And where I am, is liberated from the cycle of rebirth. When I die, I will go to the soul-body that I have already been to, thought in, and moved in, grown in, and perceived from, was self-aware in. Part of that soul-body is still with me, manifesting as energy that some would call Kundalini. That, in part, privileges how things seem to me, because my inner eye is more perceptive than yours. So here I am, trying to help you.
 
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Limbo said:
Shall we go back and take a closer look at exactly what was said? Usually when that happens I am vindicated, because you guys misunderstand me so often.
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There is nothing to understand.
 
Limbo said:
What...?

D'rok, dude I wish I could show you what privileges how things seem to me. But I can't. I can only point you to the way I took to get to where I am. And where I am, is liberated from the cycle of rebirth. When I die, I will go to the soul-body that I have already been to, thought in, and moved in, grown in, and perceived from, was self-aware in. Part of that soul-body is still with me, manifesting as energy that some would call Kundalini. That, in part, privileges how things seem to me, because my inner eye is more perceptive than yours. So here I am, trying to help you.
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What a charming story. Now back to reality.
 
150+ posts in this thread with no substance provided by the OP other than links to bodies of work which have been discussed in a much more productive manner elsewhere. The OP makes claims which are directly contradicted by self-aggrandizing chest-beating and then, curiously, pouting.

To say this thread lacks any substantive content is an understatement. It is sucking up reply time from other threads which have interesting and informative byplay.

Apparently, enlightenment breeds pettiness. Who would of thought? I would have expected pearls of wisdom and sublime teaching moments, but what do I know?

I know, I know, if that's the case why am I wasting my time wading through all the snarkiness? It's like an accident scene you just can't look away from. I find myself moving on to the next post in case Limbo actually brings something substantive to the table.
 
Limbo said:
What...?

D'rok, dude I wish I could show you what privileges how things seem to me. But I can't. I can only point you to the way I took to get to where I am. And where I am, is liberated from the cycle of rebirth. When I die, I will go to the soul-body that I have already been to, thought in, and moved in, grown in, and perceived from, was self-aware in. Part of that soul-body is still with me, manifesting as energy that some would call Kundalini. That, in part, privileges how things seem to me, because my inner eye is more perceptive than yours. So here I am, trying to help you.
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That doesn't answer my question. It just describes how things seem to you. So what? It seems to me that you need a computer and a telecommunications network to communicate this to me. Which seems to me to give my paradigm more validity than yours. What can you offer by way of evidence that you are tapping in to how reality really is?
 
Limbo said:
What...?

D'rok, dude I wish I could show you what privileges how things seem to me. But I can't. I can only point you to the way I took to get to where I am. And where I am, is liberated from the cycle of rebirth. When I die, I will go to the soul-body that I have already been to, thought in, and moved in, grown in, and perceived from, was self-aware in. Part of that soul-body is still with me, manifesting as energy that some would call Kundalini. That, in part, privileges how things seem to me, because my inner eye is more perceptive than yours. So here I am, trying to help you.
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What's odd is how specific and specialized the systems this Limbo alludes to are. One would think if they were true, other people would be making all the same connections and speaking of them as he is. But he seems to be the only person who has made this pattern of connections just so, and his recipe for this conglomeration seems to come from a privileged frame of reference only he has unlocked.

Or is it more open to interpretation, and all the inconsistent observations we find between his account and the many other spiritualists merely a result of that? If so, I fail to see why he used such specific terms and descriptions.

Basically, he has to understand that to everyone else in the world, and to the people of this forum especially, Limbo appears to be mentally masturbating in front of us all. Who agrees with his tenants in all their specific observation?
 
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SonOfLaertes said:
150+ posts in this thread with no substance provided by the OP other than links to bodies of work which have been discussed in a much more productive manner elsewhere.
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No substance for you, but I made this thread for Zanders and maybe a few other people, not for you. If Zanders learns even the slightest thing from this thread, then its a success in my book.

The OP makes claims which are directly contradicted by self-aggrandizing chest-beating and then, curiously, pouting.

To say this thread lacks any substantive content is an understatement. It is sucking up reply time from other threads which have interesting and informative byplay.

Apparently, enlightenment breeds pettiness. Who would of thought? I would have expected pearls of wisdom and sublime teaching moments, but what do I know?
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Oh I got plenty of those too. Shall I toss pearls among swine? Shall I scatter seeds on the desert sand? :p

I know, I know, if that's the case why am I wasting my time wading through all the snarkiness? It's like an accident scene you just can't look away from. I find myself moving on to the next post in case Limbo actually brings something substantive to the table.
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:hypnotize

I have already brought plenty, for those with eyes to see. But you sir are what in Biblical terms is called blind, in Buddhist terms ignorant. Can't help ya.
 
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Limbo said:
If the intent is to check, then thats what the magic will do. Its about intent. If you intend for an effect that is overt and strong enough to provide you with a means of checking, then thats what you will get. Just be prepared to be freaked out, or your own mental weakness will be an inhibitive effect.
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I get it! I finally get it! It took being sent to Limbo('s ignore list) to finally reach the epiphany. Oh my goodness, it's so beautiful! It makes so much more sense now! I have to explain it to you, it's so mighty and powerful!

Here it is: Limbo lives in a version of Matrix or possibly Discworld. I know it doesn't make much sense at first but hear me out.

If it's the matrix (which I like to call psychosomatrix) it all makes sense, since, you know, it's not the reality that changes but your perception of it and your perception of reality shapes the reality itself. There's no spoon, indeed, and Limbo is The One! :cool:

Or, alternatively, there really is spoon, and fork, and certainly a knife and dishes, else we wouldn't have a kitchen and place where to be. In that case, Limbo is some kind of wizard. And, as Sir Terry Pratchett so eloquently put it in his "Science of Discworld, the Globe", wizards first evolved the wish then designed a command. And it works, because its Discworld.

On Roundworld, the wizards had to observe the reality and find how it works, not to change the laws of physics by mere thought. And since we live in this reality, the only explanation is that Limbo has found a way to manipulate matter with his own thoughts, thus making him Avatar of the very God. And that is testable hypothesis, so just test it and give the man Million Dollars right now! :p
 
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Limbo said:
I have already brought plenty, for those with eyes to see. But you sir are what in Biblical terms is called blind, in Buddhist terms ignorant. Can't help ya.
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Crummy teacher you are.
 
Limbo said:
No substance for you, but I made this thread for Zanders and maybe a few other people, not for you. If Zanders learns even the slightest thing from this thread, then its a success in my book.




Oh I got plenty of those too. Shall I toss pearls among swine? Shall I scatter seeds on the sand? :p




:hypnotize

I have already brought plenty, for those with eyes to see. But you sir are what in Biblical terms is called blind, in Buddhist terms ignorant. Can't help ya.
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You could have posted a link in that other thread for Zanders to follow, you didn't need to start a whole new thread to contribute nothing other than a link.
 
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