The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

[JayUtah]

The material we’ve seen so far clearly establishes who is doing the best science and who is just running the same old hustle. BMTIG fell flat. OK did not.

 

[JayUtah]

It states very clearly the case will not be reopened.

That's the expected finding of a preliminary report. It determines whether there is enough new evidence to reopen the entire investigation. Was this not clear from the start?

IOW they simply calculated whether it was possible the holes in the hull were caused by the rocks...

And found that not only was it possible, it was likely. Since the rather obvious reason for the midships damage has been thoroughly explained, there is no need to cover any more old ground.

they did nothing more except listen to what some of the survivors were saying...

If you'll read carefully, you'll find they did quite a lot more than that. They answered your questions regarding why the ship sank so fast. They answered your questions regarding stability. They considered the hypothesis of a surface collision and rejected it for lack of evidence.

You said you would wait for the final report and listen to what the experts said about it. I'm an expert telling you what the report means.

Roosipuu himself said he read Jutta Raab as a teenager and concluded she was a nutter, so to speak. In other words, he sees himself as an apparatchik hired to support the establishment, as it were, against critics There is no doubt he is a very clever fellow. However, we all know the type.

I'm not sure what you mean. You said you were focused on facts, not personalities.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

In other words, he sees himself as an apparatchik hired to support the establishment, as it were, against critics There is no doubt he is a very clever fellow. However, we all know the type.

Those are definitely other words. They also have nothing to do with what Roosipuu said.

 

[Axxman300]

IOW they simply calculated whether it was possible the holes in the hull were caused by the rocks, they did nothing more except listen to what some of the survivors were saying, some twenty years later and reassess the damage.

That's not what they did. It's part of what they did.

If you actually read the report (which you didn't) you can see they surveyed the entire benthic area, too sediment samples, rock samples, and mapped the currents at depth. They photographed the exterior of the ship in toto and stitched together a 3D rendering, which has become standard for wreck surveys. They went into the car deck. They removed and recovered the bow car ramp.

They collected all the possible physical evidence possible BEFORE they ran their simulations (as they should have), and every step is presented in this report. Marine Geology is my lone area of knowledge, and this report is first class. They used all available technologies to compile background data to provide a solid foundation for the engineering folks to run their programs. Not only is this report solid enough to explain the accident based on the physical evidence, the data collection of the benthic environment will have other scientific uses for marine science well into the future.

Roosipuu himself said he read Jutta Raab as a teenager and concluded she was a nutter, so to speak. In other words, he sees himself as an apparatchik hired to support the establishment, as it were, against critics

Leaving the obvious leftist politics out of this, let's look at the facts. There was no way to hide evidence collected in this new investigation. Period. Too many people across multiple countries, multiple scientific and political disciplines to get away with some convoluted plot. Raab's incompetence, and unethical behavior has been discussed multiple times before. She is an activist, not a journalist.

You can try to move the goal posts again, but you have nowhere to move them to. The Estonia sank because the bow visor was knocked off in heavy seas it was never designed to sail. Period. That's it. That's all she wrote. Conspiracy Theorists only victimize themselves because the truth doesn't play favorites.

 

[junkshop]

It states very clearly the case will not be reopened. IOW they simply calculated whether it was possible the holes in the hull were caused by the rocks, they did nothing more except listen to what some of the survivors were saying, some twenty years later and reassess the damage. Roosipuu himself said he read Jutta Raab as a teenager and concluded she was a nutter, so to speak. In other words, he sees himself as an apparatchik hired to support the establishment, as it were, against critics There is no doubt he is a very clever fellow. However, we all know the type.

This is done. It is over. All the baseless conspiratorial bollocks you have pushed over the years has been shown to be conspiratorial bollocks, and baseless.

let it go.

 

[autumn1971]

Odds on that?
I’ll give 1,000,0000,00’ minutes of hours

But I’m in a wheeled submarine about to attack an aircraft.
And there is a mysterious radio blackout
So I will wait until a coherent solution is given

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Then how come everyone apart from you knows what it was?

That's the thing about conspiracy theories. Eventually, everyone must be in on the secret except the theorist.

 

[The Common Potato]

My mum died 31 years ago today and Fred West hanged himself 31 years ago tomorrow. And my mum and I almost once went to live in Gloucester. Eeek!

 

[P.J. Denyer]

My mum died 31 years ago today and Fred West hanged himself 31 years ago tomorrow. And my mum and I almost once went to live in Gloucester. Eeek!

Open your eyes sheeple!!!1!