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Cont: The Russian invasion of Ukraine part 6

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Interview with Olexandr Povoroznyuk in Ukrainian with English subtitles who organised a farmers' battalion with guns and ammunition he found abandoned by the Russians at the start of the war. Also discusses how he captured a tank.

 
The next step is obviously martial law and a doubling down of the regime as Russia descends into economic chaos. This will be followed by a North Korea situation, which will only end when/if the population revolts in some bloody rebellion. And maybe China does something to take advantage.
 
Olmstead said:
The next step is obviously martial law and a doubling down of the regime as Russia descends into economic chaos. This will be followed by a North Korea situation, which will only end when/if the population revolts in some bloody rebellion. And maybe China does something to take advantage.
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I figure China's taking significant advantage right now, not by setting up for a big move, but by standing by while its rivals expend resources over this conflict.
 
Drewbot said:
One of the only outs I see, is that Putin sells this as he was lied to ...
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He was lied to.

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Put under house arrest is the head of the 5th service, Col. General Sergey Beseda, from FSB. Beseda was moved to prison. This is related to the large-scale theft of funds dedicated to secret services in Ukraine and improper reports of the political situation in Ukraine.
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You don't have to read too far between the lines to glean that the FSB were generously funded to infiltrate critical Ukrainian governance structures and to gather intelligence on how the population would respond to Russian "liberation", so in true Russian style they pocketed the money, told Putin he'd be welcomed with open arms as the great liberator and their place-men would instigate surrenders in each city they entered.
 
dudalb said:
Musk has throughly wrecked his public image as "A Real Life Tony Stark" over the past year. I guess that Time Man Of The Year Award drove his ego into La La Land.
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Musk is really pissing me off. Just because I think positively about Tesla cars and Space-X doesn't mean he's smart about everything. Tesla Solar Company is a joke. So is the Boring Company. Hyperloop is also a joke. His promotion of Mars exploration is selfish and stupid.

And he didn't seem to have studied WW2 an appeasement. MAD is crazy but the Western world cannot just let Russia brutalize neighbor after neighbor until all of Europe is under Russia's control. Appeasement is a terrible idea.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
He was lied to.







You don't have to read too far between the lines to glean that the FSB were generously funded to infiltrate critical Ukrainian governance structures and to gather intelligence on how the population would respond to Russian "liberation", so in true Russian style they pocketed the money, told Putin he'd be welcomed with open arms as the great liberator and their place-men would instigate surrenders in each city they entered.
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It did work to an extent. Crimea is relatively easy to block as there are few roads out. Then Kherson surrendered when it could quite easily have blocked the invasion at the river.
 
acbytesla said:
Musk is really pissing me off. Just because I think positively about Tesla cars and Space-X doesn't mean he's smart about everything. Tesla Solar Company is a joke. So is the Boring Company. Hyperloop is also a joke. His promotion of Mars exploration is selfish and stupid.



And he didn't seem to have studied WW2 an appeasement. MAD is crazy but the Western world cannot just let Russia brutalize neighbor after neighbor until all of Europe is under Russia's control. Appeasement is a terrible idea.
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The Tesla big storage batteries in Australia have been very successful.

https://hornsdalepowerreserve.com.au/

He is a jerk, though. Although an intelligent one.
 
a_unique_person said:
It did work to an extent. Crimea is relatively easy to block as there are few roads out. Then Kherson surrendered when it could quite easily have blocked the invasion at the river.
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Yes they could. There are suggestions that Kherson was one of the few places where there were local collaboration.
 
acbytesla said:
Musk is really pissing me off. Just because I think positively about Tesla cars and Space-X doesn't mean he's smart about everything. Tesla Solar Company is a joke. So is the Boring Company. Hyperloop is also a joke. His promotion of Mars exploration is selfish and stupid.
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But at least it inspired a moderately amusing episode of Thunderbirds Are Go!

;)
 
So the Russians are now fleeing Kherson. The political leadership, that is, and presumably some of the civilians that pass the Ruscist smell test for slavish obedience to the Führer.

The top general claims Ukraine has amassed tens of thousands of soldiers for an imminent attack on the city. This is credible, as Ukraine, for its part, has not been talking about what it is doing for days. Such a media blackout often means something big is coming.

The top general also warns that Ukraine might destroy the water power plant and hit the city bad with artillery. I am confident this means that the Rusicts intend to destroy the water power plant and hit the city bad with artillery. Make scorched earth of Kherson, Russia-style.
 
Oystein said:
So the Russians are now fleeing Kherson. The political leadership, that is, and presumably some of the civilians that pass the Ruscist smell test for slavish obedience to the Führer.

The top general claims Ukraine has amassed tens of thousands of soldiers for an imminent attack on the city. This is credible, as Ukraine, for its part, has not been talking about what it is doing for days. Such a media blackout often means something big is coming.

The top general also warns that Ukraine might destroy the water power plant and hit the city bad with artillery. I am confident this means that the Rusicts intend to destroy the water power plant and hit the city bad with artillery. Make scorched earth of Kherson, Russia-style.
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I expect them to relocate as many of the civilian population as they can snatch off the street and spirit away as well.
 
If The Ukraine Army can cross into Crimea after securing Kherson, this will leave Crimea open to airborne operations, naval landings via boats in the rear of the front line Russian troops. Without the ability to resupply , (Bridge out) this will create havoc with the Russians. Basically the Russians are trapped on an island if they try to hold Crimea.
 
the less access to supplies via land Crimea has, the more it has to be supplied by sea. And that will make more Russian ships vulnerable to attack.
 
Modern Warfare is really a war of logistics.
Russian reliance on rail, in a war that has 35-80 mile ranges on artillery of different sorts, has cost them dearly.
 
Drewbot said:
Modern Warfare is really a war of logistics.
Russian reliance on rail, in a war that has 35-80 mile ranges on artillery of different sorts, has cost them dearly.
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Old-Timey warfare, too. It was not for nothing the Romans built their roads.

The Russian system is geared at defending their large land mass, with internal rail. Their brutal incompetence and kleptocracy aside, I think it would have been a different fight entirely if NATO had tried to land troops into Russia itself, both from the points of view of logistics and Russian morale.
 
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