Merged The Roy Moore Batcrap Crazy Remark Thread/Roy Moore Is Done

The NYT did some digging.

Even before the allegations about his personal conduct came to light, Mr. Moore’s judicial record on matters of sexual abuse was a point of contention in the race. During the Republican Senate primary, Mr. Strange ran television commercials attacking Mr. Moore for his vote in a case involving the sexual assault of a child.

Democrats alleged a deeper pattern of leniency in Mr. Moore’s judicial decisions involving sexual predation, pointing to several cases in which the former judge expressed skepticism of young women making allegations of sexual abuse.

In a 2015 case involving a man, David Pittman, who pleaded guilty to raping an underage girl, Mr. Moore wrote in a dissenting opinion that Mr. Pittman should have been allowed to introduce evidence showing his alleged victim’s parents “suspected her of sexual activity,” because it could be relevant to discerning her “alleged motive” in claiming she had been assaulted.

And in a 2014 case, involving a man convicted of abusing two underage girls, Mr. Moore wrote in a dissenting opinion that the man, Sherman Tate, should have had the chance in court to demonstrate that his accusers were romantically involved with each other. Mr. Moore wrote that connection “could be relevant to the victims’ alleged bias against Tate.”

The 2017 GOP has no room for Jeff Flake or John McCain but Roy Moore can come strutting in. This rot runs deep.
 
Sorry, please let me ask to be sure I understand you.

A thirty-two year old man molested a fourteen year old girl, granted some time ago. Let's suppose for the moment that the allegation is true. You don't think it matters? You don't think that this fact would make him a poor choice for the United States Senate?

At least he's not a Clinton? Is that your position?

Thanks for clarifying.
Allegation would be your first clue.
 
I suspect his silent reference is to Bill Clinton's sexual escapades as POTUS and perhaps the accusations before he got that far. Because unproven accusations that were actually investigated, coupled with a blowjob from a consenting adult are evil while Roy Moore preying on minors isn't a big deal. Not to mention Hillary Clinton's refusal to leave Bill after the Lewinsky infidelity is proof of her sliminess and political aspirations as a power-hungry elitist while people continuing to support Roy Moore is simply recognition of Christian goodness.

I see this from many on the left. An allegation that is no where near proved somehow makes what Clinton actually did seem insignificant. Got it.

Consenting adult, lol. It’s a classic case of a superior taking advantage. Not to mention some very credible women claiming the predator in chief raped them. This Roy Moore issue has no proof what so ever. Maybe that will change.
 
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Steve Bannon seems to think the allegations against Moore are true, doesn't care. He's more concerned about snitching.

By the way, the Bezos Amazon Washington Post that dropped that dime on Donald Trump is the same Bezos Amazon Washington that dropped a dime this afternoon on Judge Roy Moore. Is that a coincidence? That's what I mean when I say it's the opposition party. It's purely part of the apparatus of the opposition party. It's not a fair and free media anymore ... I don't like it. But I think it's a strange coincidence.
 
It doesn't even matter. He's already demonstrated his complete disregard for the US Constitution and the rule of law. He belongs in jail, not the Senate.

Not sure that he belongs in jail (trying to diddle underaged girls notwithstanding), but I otherwise agree with your sentiments.

He's a terrible candidate, a man who was literally removed from the highest court of his state twice, if I understand correctly. A loathsome person, even ignoring sex scandals.

But I bet you a dollar that he's elected nonetheless.

Alabama. It's the state that Okies like me point to in order to feel better about our damned selves. (That and Mississippi, but Mississippi is kinda low hanging fruit. Go to it if you're really desperate, but otherwise Alabama.)
 
I have a daughter in that age range. I am a straight, white, married (faithfully), Christian man. Moore and his cadre of sanctimonious "family values", "God-fearing" degenerates make me want to vomit, and that was before this latest news broke.

But how about addressing the issue in their terms: if any of them tried to do what Moore did to my daughter, I could provide a "Second Amendment solution", alright.

Corrupt, lying, hypocritical, hateful, ignorant, treasonous degenerates. The lot of them.
 
Some of the conservatives are trying to deny the charges against Moore. That's expected, even if WaPo made a very strong case.

The sick ones, however, have now openly embraced the idea of a thirty-something man dating a 14 year old. If the Dems are opposed to pederasty, them the GOP will now wholeheartedly support it.

Disgusting people coming out of the woodwork on this one. The accusations against Moore are one thing, but Republican approval of a 32 year old man dating a 14 year old girl really takes the cake. They are far, far gone.
 
It's a play on, "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

...and these days I'm not sure whether the latter would necessarily be a problem any more and sadly not because the GOP has become more inclusive and accepting of homosexuality.

Instead if the incident can be portrayed as a one-off or a rare occurrence then they can say that they had been tempted by Satan and ask voters to pray for him. If it is a regular thing then so long as his wife and family stick by and he goes for "treatment" to cure the horrible affliction then that's fine.

The only way it could go wrong would be if it could be shown that the candidate were famously and notoriously a "bottom" - I don't think the GOP likes that kind of thing.
 
It would have been different if they were black and/or under 12 but otherwise, yes. What fifty-something redneck doesn't want to schtup a highschool cheerleader if they had the chance ?
And let's be fair: These harlots were tempting him with their obscene clothes, how can we blame him when these girls were wanton tramps? He should have our sympathy and support because he fell for these whores of Satan.
 
Given the circumstances, even if she was 16 or the age of consent was 14, his conduct was clearly inappropriate and abusive. She was young, inexperienced and clearly out of her comfort zone. Instead of making sure that she was comfortable and okay with escalating the relationship it seems that he merely did whatever he wanted.
 
Given the circumstances, even if she was 16 or the age of consent was 14, his conduct was clearly inappropriate and abusive. She was young, inexperienced and clearly out of her comfort zone. Instead of making sure that she was comfortable and okay with escalating the relationship it seems that he merely did whatever he wanted.

Yes, and ?

This simply isn't a vote loser for Moore. If the allegations are true, his supporters are willing to overlook it because he is a godly man who deserves their support or they simply do not have a problem with a 30somehting man dating a 14-year old (unless it's their daughter and even then perhaps they'd be fine after all the guy's a lawyer, has prospects, and is godly).

The problem that liberals like me have is that we apply our own set of values to a situation and expect that everyone would think and behave similarly. In the same way that liberals would be fine with a homosexual candidate (because we're fine with homosexuality), many conservatives are happy with Moore either because they're fine with his behaviour or because his conservatism and godliness trump any peccadilloes such as dating minors.
 

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