The Revolution Begins

I saw Ron Paul and some other guy in a split screen, then it said "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."

THE REVOLUTION HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY SQUASHED!! SMOOTHIES FOR EVERYONE!! :D
 
The video worked.

Here is a way better video of Arnold Shwarzenegger punching out a horse.

 
You know what?

I think RP is OK--not the best, obviously, but not nearly as bad as people here make him out to be (this is a highly left-wing forum, after all).

But, what do you think this is accomplishing? Grandiose cult worshipping of a man--even worse than the Obama groupies. Obama could fart into a microphone and people would cheer about him showing how in-tune he is with the common man that he, too, has bodily functions; Ron Paul could belch and some people think it'd be some great insight into personal liberty.

RP is not a political genius, or even special beyond that he has the most libertarian sympathizes in Congress. I'm not bashing him, it's the simple truth.

If you really want to quote someone, quote the thinkers behind the libertarian movement, not someone that has a pulpit because of luck or getting elected. Rothbard, Mises, whoever, or better yet formulate your own ideas instead of needing to have someone else make them, express them, and clarify them for you.

And there is no "Revolution", it's a very small "movement" of true libertarians, conspiracy theorists, and the "old-Right". When Ron Paul is forgotten, which will be soon--so, too, will these silly talks of "Revolution" that don't even mean anything. Revolution? I don't see fighting in the streets, I don't see Ron Paul having any sort of success.
 
Huh, it won't play for me even if I go to the youtube page.

Conversely, the horse who called Arnold a sellout for endorsing McCain played just fine and dandy. :confused:
 
It is my firm belief that the most likely path for America to become fascist would be for Ron Paul or someone like him to be elected president. (Which is admittedly not very likely. What can I say, I'm an optimist?)

It is not that Ron Paul's philosophies are particularly fascist. In fact, as much as I dislike them, they are largely the opposite of fascism. But fascism does not arise from the status quo deciding to gradually take more and more power. Bad things can happen from that road, but nothing quite as bad as fascism. Fascism comes from revolution. It comes from people saying that the status quo is iredeemably screwed up and that we need something big to shake things up and make things right. Revolutions do not always lead to tyranny, but they don't have a particularly good track record either. That sort of cynicism is far more poisonous to liberty than the most egregious injustices that George W. Bush has committed. Things are not that bad.

I think that George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in American history. But if Ron Paul was elected president, then the United States of America would be in deep ****.
 
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Boy, did I ever miss out on something. Here I thought Ron Paul was out of the race.

Woooooooo..... go Ron, go Ron, go Ron.....


:cheerleader4
 
(this is a highly left-wing forum, after all).

Actually, I am not left-wing and would not vote for Obama (if I could actually vote in the US election). I think Ron Paul's policies are silly and his supporters, on average, even sillier.
 
Actually, I am not left-wing and would not vote for Obama (if I could actually vote in the US election). I think Ron Paul's policies are silly and his supporters, on average, even sillier.

So?

And I think you're silly. What point are you trying to make? One or a few people doesn't change the fact that this forum is highly left-wing. You might as well suggest that cigarettes don't cause cancer because you know someone who smoked all their life and didn't die from it.
 
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Pigs still aren't flying, Natalie Portman still is not my wife so I think I can safely say that Ron Paul isn't in charge of anything.


Thank goodness.
 
You know what?

I think RP is OK--not the best, obviously, but not nearly as bad as people here make him out to be (this is a highly left-wing forum, after all).

But, what do you think this is accomplishing? Grandiose cult worshipping of a man--even worse than the Obama groupies. Obama could fart into a microphone and people would cheer about him showing how in-tune he is with the common man that he, too, has bodily functions; Ron Paul could belch and some people think it'd be some great insight into personal liberty.

RP is not a political genius, or even special beyond that he has the most libertarian sympathizes in Congress. I'm not bashing him, it's the simple truth.

If you really want to quote someone, quote the thinkers behind the libertarian movement, not someone that has a pulpit because of luck or getting elected. Rothbard, Mises, whoever, or better yet formulate your own ideas instead of needing to have someone else make them, express them, and clarify them for you.

And there is no "Revolution", it's a very small "movement" of true libertarians, conspiracy theorists, and the "old-Right". When Ron Paul is forgotten, which will be soon--so, too, will these silly talks of "Revolution" that don't even mean anything. Revolution? I don't see fighting in the streets, I don't see Ron Paul having any sort of success.


It's not the man , it's the message. I agree with the saying "Dr. paul cured my apathy "

This thing is much bigger than ron paul. He just opened the eyes of many americans and I applaud him for it.
 
It is my firm belief that the most likely path for America to become fascist would be for Ron Paul or someone like him to be elected president. (Which is admittedly not very likely. What can I say, I'm an optimist?)

It is not that Ron Paul's philosophies are particularly fascist. In fact, as much as I dislike them, they are largely the opposite of fascism. But fascism does not arise from the status quo deciding to gradually take more and more power. Bad things can happen from that road, but nothing quite as bad as fascism. Fascism comes from revolution. It comes from people saying that the status quo is iredeemably screwed up and that we need something big to shake things up and make things right. Revolutions do not always lead to tyranny, but they don't have a particularly good track record either. That sort of cynicism is far more poisonous to liberty than the most egregious injustices that George W. Bush has committed. Things are not that bad.

I think that George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in American history. But if Ron Paul was elected president, then the United States of America would be in deep ****.

Spoken like a true W. lover.

The american revolutionary war led to a lot of tyranny huh dopey?

maybe that's the kind of propaganda that the redcoats told their fellow redcoats. "hey we have to kill them. They will bring fascism."

Thomas jefferson once said. "every generation needs a revolution". I agree.

Freedom is a relatively new concept. Freedom has not been around that long in comparison to other entities like tyranny. And I will defend a guy who defends freedom and supports the belief of these men who knew in their hearts what freedom was and how to enable freedom in a society.

IN closing..... [edited]

Name calling and attacking the arguer. Please remember to be civil.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady
 
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Spoken like a true W. lover.

The american revolutionary war led to a lot of tyranny huh dopey?

maybe that's the kind of propaganda that the redcoats told their fellow redcoats. "hey we have to kill them. They will bring fascism."

Thomas jefferson once said. "every generation needs a revolution". I agree.

Freedom is a relatively new concept. Freedom has not been around that long in comparison to other entities like tyranny. And I will defend a guy who defends freedom and supports the belief of these men who knew in their hearts what freedom was and how to enable freedom in a society.

IN closing..... [edited]

Someone who says

"I think that George W. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst presidents in American history"

is probably not a W lover. Get over yourself.
 
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if there is indeed a revolution taking place, it is the saddest, most pathetic revolution we have ever seen in modern times.
 
if there is indeed a revolution taking place, it is the saddest, most pathetic revolution we have ever seen in modern times.

BTW, is Ron Paul a troother? I can't find anything on that.
 
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