"The Republicans’ war on science and reason"

A thread like this remains a discussion, and hence worthwhile, when both side's positions are articulated in a dispassionate manner, without becoming insulting, condescending or worse.

A worthy goal - otherwise its just "piling on".
 
I think people are blinded by ideology. Obama has been very much anti-science in the decisions he has made. But we look the other way because it does not fit in what we want to believe.
 
excaza said:
Hey, I don't live in that town, so I don't care!
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Reminds me of my stay in the Dominican Republic back in the 70s. Everyone paid kids to dump their garbage down the street. So everyone had garbage in front of their houses, just not their own garbage. :p
 
Obama is not a scientist. In the lefties world, Liberalism is like a kind of religion and people blindly follow the chosen one (how is that pro-science, by the way). Obama has make terrible decisions that are anti-science. That is the truth. When confronted by the truth, lefties fight it. How is that pro-science? How does that embrace reality?

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I disagree with a lot of stuff Coulter says but she is spot right on when she says that Liberalism is a religion. To be critical of our Democratic Great Leader is akin to insulting the Pope to a Liberal. And all is fair game and the floodgates open to attack the messenger.

Communism, by the way, does not work in part because scientific decisions are made by a big centralized government that is not qualified or equipped to make scientific decisions. Obama has managed things in a similar way and it has been a failure. I know Obama is not a Communist. He is not a Socialist either. Riiiight.

Regan was known for leading by appointing the right people. Obama does not believe in that. Bob Woodward accounts how Obama would not let the generals lead the wars. And made absurd decisions intended to please everyone and as a result angered and frustrated everyone. I am sure Obama thinks he also did the right thing in deciding not to fund the NASA missions that would almost assuredly have helped the economy as well as mankind. He was wrong. But that is how the game is played when you have a big government and you give power to people on the basis of image and the idea that they are so damn smart.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
Obama is not a scientist. In the lefties world, Liberalism is like a kind of religion and people blindly follow the chosen one (how is that pro-science, by the way). Obama has make terrible decisions that are anti-science. That is the truth. When confronted by the truth, lefties fight it. How is that pro-science? How does that embrace reality?

LIBERALS:
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I disagree with a lot of stuff Coulter says but she is spot right on when she says that Liberalism is a religion. To be critical of our Democratic Great Leader is akin to insulting the Pope to a Liberal. And all is fair game and the floodgates open to attack the messenger.

Communism, by the way, does not work in part because scientific decisions are made by a big centralized government that is not qualified or equipped to make scientific decisions. Obama has managed things in a similar way and it has been a failure. I know Obama is not a Communist. He is not a Socialist either. Riiiight.

Regan was known for leading by appointing the right people. Obama does not believe in that. Bob Woodward accounts how Obama would not let the generals lead the wars. And made absurd decisions intended to please everyone and as a result angered and frustrated everyone. I am sure Obama thinks he also did the right thing in deciding not to fund the NASA missions that would almost assuredly have helped the economy as well as mankind. He was wrong. But that is how the game is played when you have a big government and you give power to people on the basis of image and the idea that they are so damn smart.
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you never cease to amuse, bill.

btw....coulter is a foul hateful bitch that is rabidly anti-science.
 
bikerdruid said:
you never cease to amuse, bill.

btw....coulter is a foul hateful bitch that is rabidly anti-science.
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She is hateful because she is mean or is she hateful because she is wrong (as in factually, logically wrong)? Sometimes people say things that are hurtful whilst also being true. Isn't a harsh truth much better than a warm and kind lie?

I love how lefties have this fuzzy logic where being impolite is the same thing as being dishonest.

I never said Coulter was a scientist.

Lefties believe in something not necessarily because it is factual. Rather they believe something because they perceive it as being good and kindly. It does not matter if the USA does not have the funds or ability for Universal Health Care and that it would be unfeasible. To Liberals it is only important to support it because is SHOULD be done -- it does not matter if it CAN be done. This is how politicians that are all image and no substance (like John Kerry) get to be picked to lead.

By the way, people who say you do not back up what you post or elaborate or really post a reason for your ideas, I think, are being truthful.

It is not that you logically disagree with me. It is just that you do not like what I am saying. There is a vast gaping canyon of difference between the two.

You know better, so you say. I am wrong, so you say. You just do not want to tell me where I am wrong. Am I supposed to assume you could educate me but you are too much of an elitist to waste your time in doing so?
 
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Bill Thompson said:
She is hateful because she is mean or is she hateful because she is wrong (as in factually, logically wrong)? Sometimes people say things that are hurtful whilst also being true. Isn't a harsh truth much better than a warm and kind lie?
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The defining moment was when I heard her being interviewed on the radio. The discussion involved some reporters who had been killed (in Iraq? in Afghanistan? somewhere?). The interviewer opined that some thought the reporters were being intentionally targeted by our troops.

Her response? "If only..."

I was lost from that point on. Her juvenile Ben-Stein-type evolution denial, heard about second hand much later, only vindicates my decision.

She's a Hannity-style right wing ideologue, and as such, boring. Exactly as boring as the left wing variety.

I'm sure she still sells a lot of books, though.
 
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