The prophecies of Ama

[hurdygurdy]

Your "prophet" has been discredited. Debunked. Proven a fraud, and Ama has chosen a new prophet.

I looked up the book just to post a link, and lo and behold, it's currently FREE!

Yummy! There's even a chapter dedicated to PC!

The War Crusader
Ang Digmaan Crusader

A follower of the liar who slandered Ama claims to crusade for peace, yet he repeat lies of war, flagellating his whip over images of vengenace and destruction. He preaches peace with the same mouth which he worships war. His mouth is full of evil and lies, his lust for violence blinds him to his own duplicity and hypocrisy.

Pretty accurate, isn't it?

 

[Agatha]

Oh, excellent, Hurdygurdy! I am still in contact with Amazon over why they haven't sent me the updated book (I do have automatic updates on).

 

[halleyscomet]

Pretty accurate, isn't it?

Looks pretty accurate to me.

I'm still a bit gobsmacked by "The Fate of Ka Apaz." Talk about violent. It strikes me as a bit hypocritical of Ama's new prophet to criticize PC for preaching peace while worshiping war and then have a long hunk of text dedicated to a very graphic discretion of Ka Apaz being tortured in Hell. There really should be a "Trigger Warning" on the book for that section alone.

(I'm not going to call them chapters. They're too short to be chapters.)

 

[Filippo Lippi]

The book is free if you're in the US, apparently. Did we know this?

 

[halleyscomet]

Yummy! There's even a chapter dedicated to PC!




Pretty accurate, isn't it?

The book is free if you're in the US, apparently. Did we know this?

This is a new change. It wasn't free a couple days ago.

 

[pakeha]

Dear, oh, dear, oh dear.
It looks as though the calendar, the nails, the golem, Angelina Imden and the rest of the cast have been declared null and void, then?
We can forget about the prophecies as given by Maria Liwayway Alvaran, as well?

 

[halleyscomet]

Oh, excellent, Hurdygurdy! I am still in contact with Amazon over why they haven't sent me the updated book (I do have automatic updates on).

According to this page:

https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=A1RGGPBKDR1BPZ

You have to ping Amazon when you need an update pushed to existing customers. My guess is this new prophet didn't do that. The way I read this, you need to ping Amazon and they'll take up to 4 weeks to enable updates through the "Manage your Kindle" feature or auto-push an update.

What happens if you delete the book from your device and then download it again? Do you get the updated version or the version you downloaded originally?

 

[Agatha]

According to this page:

https://kdp.amazon.com/help?topicId=A1RGGPBKDR1BPZ

You have to ping Amazon when you need an update pushed to existing customers. My guess is this new prophet didn't do that. The way I read this, you need to ping Amazon and they'll take up to 4 weeks to enable updates through the "Manage your Kindle" feature or auto-push an update.

What happens if you delete the book from your device and then download it again? Do you get the updated version or the version you downloaded originally?

The original version, not updated. Mind you, I'm not sure I want torture-porn about Ka Apaz, so maybe it's for the best at the moment!

 

[LaurelHS]

What are the consequences of getting syphilis or gonorrhoea, abaddon? The person does not die yet but there are many complications.

Your medical knowledge is lacking. If these diseases are diagnosed and treated early, there will not be "many complications." You sound like a typical member of the religious right using misinformation to frighten people.

 

[halleyscomet]

What are the consequences of getting syphilis or gonorrhoea(sic), abaddon? The person does not die yet but there are many complications.

A short course of antibiotics.

Then we have herpes. The person who contracts the disease does not die but the disease is very painful when it attacks.

From what I hear it's not fun, but medication for suppressing eruptions has gotten very advanced.

Then we have AIDS. A one-night stand may doom a person to his/her death. It is deadly.

A 15-Year Jump in Life Expectancy for People With HIV

The spirit of Ama gave it a name—GOTACURAL: got a disease that is characterized by being incurable. This disease made its debut in 1980. Decades have passed and still there is no cure or vaccine despite works by well-known people in the medical profession. I am sorry to say that a cure will never be found.

And your evidence that this disease actually exists is...?

It sounds like this Ka Apaz character realized all her favorite talking point diseases were being cured or treated so she made one up, expecting only the dumbest of the dumb to believe her absurd lies and fabrications.

 

[FluffyPersian]

First, I wanted to confirm that the book is now free, at least in the US.

I just downloaded it, mostly to read the Ka Apaz chapter. (What can I say? I enjoy reading about scandals and schisms.) Looks like a member of the splinter club has been following the discussion, hence the short chapter on PC.

The quoted area below is my very quick summary, using a combination of paraphrasing and quotes. The phrase in brackets is my own comment.

"Ama has been mocked by the lies told by Ka Apaz...She preaches war and destructipn to frighten and control those enslaved to her lies." Ama last spoke to Ka Apaz in July 2010, only to warn her to stop lying about Ama.

Ka Apaz is already damned, and nothing she says will change that. She might as well commit suicide, since that won't harm her soul [contrary to traditional Catholic doctrine].

"She will spend eternity with the prophets of Baal...Every 700 years, Lucifer himself will rape her and she will spend a decade gestating his seed. She will birth a new prince of Hell and be rent into 10,000 pieces by the birth, only to be eaten by her child."

(I think even the natural home birth proponents would recommend medication for that one.)

 

[halleyscomet]

First, I wanted to confirm that the book is now free, at least in the US.

I just downloaded it, mostly to read the Ka Apaz chapter. (What can I say? I enjoy reading about scandals and schisms.) Looks like a member of the splinter club has been following the discussion, hence the short chapter on PC.

The quoted area below is my very quick summary, using a combination of paraphrasing and quotes. The phrase in brackets is my own comment.



(I think even the natural home birth proponents would recommend medication for that one.)

While it violates Catholic dogma, I can see the line of reasoning. If you are already damned to Hell, destined for a fate worse than the garden of suicides, can suicide really make matters worse?

(Aside from sending you to Hell sooner that is.)

 

[PeaceCrusader]

1975 Prophecy 10 – Sickness will spread which will almost cut-off all lives. (Lalaganap ang malupit at mabagsik na salot ng karamdaman. Walang kahulilip na karamdaman; halos ikapugto ng lahat ng buhay.)

 

[PeaceCrusader]

This is the English translation of part of http://aristean.org/transcript505.htm which the spirit of Ama said:
Ama: Don’t be accustomed to. Don’t be used to in your heart of what I say this and that which you do not immediately feel. You should remember always that when the people got accustomed to or used to what Noah said that there was a flood that would come, they laughed and ignored what the demented Noah was saying. When the time came, no one among them was able to avoid because it came to their lives what God was saying, “Vision ignored, when it comes, it is horrible.”

The original text in Filipino is:
Ama: Huwag mahirati. Huwag masanay ang inyong mga puso sa sinasabi Kong ganoon at ganitong hindi ninyo agad nadadama. Dapat ninyong maalaalang lagi na nang mahirati o mabantad o masanay ang mga taong pinagsasabihan ni Noe na mayroong baha na darating, sila’y nagtawanan at di nila inalintana ang mga salita ng ulyaning si Noe. Datapwat nang dumating ang pagkakataon, wala sa kanila sinumang nakaiwas sapagkat dumating sa buhay nila ang sinasabi ng Diyos, “Guni-guning hindi pansin, kakila-kilabot kung dumating.”

 

[hurdygurdy]

1975 Prophecy 10 – Sickness will spread which will almost cut-off all lives. (Lalaganap ang malupit at mabagsik na salot ng karamdaman. Walang kahulilip na karamdaman; halos ikapugto ng lahat ng buhay.)

Another vague and imprecise prediction. Did you know that Ka Apaz is no longer the mouthpiece of Ama? It's on a book, so it must be true. The book also has a mention about you:

The War Crusader
Ang Digmaan Crusader

A follower of the liar who slandered Ama claims to crusade for peace, yet he repeats lies of war, flagellating his whip over images of vengeance and destruction. He preaches peace with the same mouth which he worships war. His mouth is full of evil and lies, his lust for violence blinds him to his own duplicity and hypocrisy.

Any opinion?

 

[devnull]

cool story bro.

 

[fromdownunder]

This is the English translation of part of http://aristean.org/transcript505.htm which the spirit of Ama said:
Ama:[snip]

It no longer counts. Your old crone has been disowned by Ama, who has replaced her with another prophet. You have backed the wrong horse. Have fun in your eternal Hell with the false lying prophet of Ama.

Norm

 

[Mojo]

This is the English translation of part of http://aristean.org/transcript505.htm which the spirit of Ama said:
Ama: Don’t be accustomed to. Don’t be used to in your heart of what I say this and that which you do not immediately feel. You should remember always that when the people got accustomed to or used to what Noah said that there was a flood that would come, they laughed and ignored what the demented Noah was saying. When the time came, no one among them was able to avoid because it came to their lives what God was saying, “Vision ignored, when it comes, it is horrible.”

Don't worry; Akhenaten has sourced the draught excluders and duct tape.

 

[pakeha]

1975 Prophecy 10 – Sickness will spread which will almost cut-off all lives.

(Lalaganap ang malupit at mabagsik na salot ng karamdaman. Walang kahulilip na karamdaman; halos ikapugto ng lahat ng buhay.)

This is the English translation of part of http://aristean.org/transcript505.htm which the spirit of Ama said:
Ama: Don’t be accustomed to. Don’t be used to in your heart of what I say this and that which you do not immediately feel. You should remember always that when the people got accustomed to or used to what Noah said that there was a flood that would come, they laughed and ignored what the demented Noah was saying. When the time came, no one among them was able to avoid because it came to their lives what God was saying, “Vision ignored, when it comes, it is horrible.”

The original text in Filipino is:
Ama: Huwag mahirati. Huwag masanay ang inyong mga puso sa sinasabi Kong ganoon at ganitong hindi ninyo agad nadadama. Dapat ninyong maalaalang lagi na nang mahirati o mabantad o masanay ang mga taong pinagsasabihan ni Noe na mayroong baha na darating, sila’y nagtawanan at di nila inalintana ang mga salita ng ulyaning si Noe. Datapwat nang dumating ang pagkakataon, wala sa kanila sinumang nakaiwas sapagkat dumating sa buhay nila ang sinasabi ng Diyos, “Guni-guning hindi pansin, kakila-kilabot kung dumating.”

PC, isn't it time you stopped ignoring the evidence that Maria Liwayway Alvaran is not a channel for prophecy?

 

[LaurelHS]

My Olympic prediction about Canada winning at least one medal in hockey has come true. The Canadian women are in the gold medal game tomorrow so they are guaranteed silver at least. I'm a better prophet than Maria Liwayway Alvaran. Give me money.