The prophecies of Ama

[PeaceCrusader]

20121024.1135

We can discuss here the prophecies of the spirit of Ama that have happened, are happening, or conceived to have not happened at all.

Ama is the spirit who we (plural) cannot see or touch but can hear and talk to Him in our sessions with Him. Since there is a sound, we can record on audio tape our sessions.

The physical body that He uses is that of the blind 73-year-old woman Maria Liwayway Alvaran, also known as Ka Apaz, of Baliwag, Bulacan, Philippines.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

Oh this should be good.

 

[arthwollipot]

Can we have an example of one such prophecy?

 

[Nowhere Man]

3.1415926

As an example, here is 100 pages' worth of discussion of Ama's prediction that the 2012 Summer Olympics would not be held because a very short World War III would happen before or during, killing 2/3 (or so) of the world population. I don't recall either of those happening, do you?

And just to short-circuit complaints, note that PeaceCrusader will manually timestamp each of his posts, and if he quotes someone, will manually add the username and post number as well. He will not answer any questions about this.

He (singular) will also note that we (plural) is plural every time he (singular) uses the word.

Fred

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Can we have an example of one such prophecy?

Oh come on. The poor guy just got here and already you are asking him such a difficult question.

 

[StankApe]

Next time you talk to Ama you tell him that he still owes me $500 over the Cubs blowing it in 2003

 

[AdMan]

I'd like to hear PeaceCrusader explain why he lied to the members of this forum when he said that he would denounce Ka Apaz/"Ama" as a false prophet if the London Olympic Games prophecy failed, why he lied again after that failure saying he would stop discussing Ama's prophecies, and why after that debacle we should take anything else that he or Ama says seriously.

 

[fromdownunder]

20121024.1135

We can discuss here the prophecies of the spirit of Ama that have happened, are happening, or conceived to have not happened at all.

There you go. Everything that you say that this stupid old crone supposedly said is false prophesy, and none of it has ever happened, including WWIII, your beautiful free house, ten wives, schools up the road and the Zoo that everyone could visit (providing that all the animals were kept inside for three days and nights after the war started.

7 Billion people are still alive that you wished dead.

Norm

 

[Foster Zygote]

Can we have an example of one such prophecy?

Abaddon has already compiled a sample list here.

I'll reprint it for the readers of this thread.

OK. There is a sinister attempt going on right here and now to disavow what was previously espoused, by dint of a divide and conquer methodology.

PC fervently hopes that all will forget the failures of all previous threads by focussing on the minutia of the current point of discussion.

I cry foul. When each of the crackpot theories is presented in toto, one might wonder about the mindset, but it is easy to present in teeny weeny bits, and have everyone arguing about aspects of the minutiae.

Well, blow that. When one considers the body of work as a whole, one will find a whole pile.

Without further ado, here is a list of claims(with links to the OP's).

Consider them well.

This is from approx the first 25% of the first 2012 thread, yet has not reached the worst claims yet.

I could continue...maybe...

1. China will occupy the Philippines, also

2. There's going to be three eyed babies

3. Humans give birth to cats, cats give birth to humans.

4. Judge Floro of the Philippines consults three dwarves.

5. The London Olympics will be cancelled due to the outbreak of WWIII (and onwards throughout that thread)

6. WWIII will cancel the London Olympics and 2/3 of the human population will perish.

7. Specific dates for the birth and death of jebus have been determined by PC

8. If the Olympic prophecy fails, PC will repudiate the false prophet, yet didn't when the failure came
9. China has amassed an army 200 million strong
10. WWIII will break out on a Wednesday before or during the London Olympics.
11. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8369449&postcount=269
12. It's gonna be worldwide nuclear war (bet the 200m chinese troops won't be pleased)
13. China is firing lasers at US sattelites to disable them.
14. The I-Ching and Nostradamus confirm WWIII
15. This is all straight from the holey spook.
16. 3 days food is sufficient to survive nuclear war
17. Although 2/3 of the population will perish, the ratio of men to women afterwards will be 1 to 10. Every chap gets a harem.
18. Nuclear winter will last only three days and three nights.
19. After the nuclear holocaust, houses will have endured intact and the survivors can pick which they like (big enough for your 10 merry widows)

20. After nukes barter, no currency. Did I mention this supposedly all happened last July?
21. Jebus: born 33BC, died 1 BC, because...well why not? Makes as much sense as anything else.
22. First mention of St. Evangeline and Angeline Imden.We shall be returning to that odd diversion later.
23. Draught excluders and tape are all you need to survive nuclear holocaust.

 

[pipelineaudio]

I'd like to hear PeaceCrusader explain why he lied to the members of this forum when he said that he would denounce Ka Apaz/"Ama" as a false prophet if the London Olympic Games prophecy failed, why he lied again after that failure saying he would stop discussing Ama's prophecies, and why after that debacle we should take anything else that he or Ama says seriously.

Yes please

This forum needs a forced push option when people continue to avoid answers in order to start new threads

 

[Astreja]

This forum needs a forced push option when people continue to avoid answers in order to start new threads

In the absence of such an option, I've reported this thread to the mods.

I will not be participating further in this discussion. I've had quite enough of this "Ama" nonsense, thankyouverymuch.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I am making a prediction that PC won't be visiting this thread very often, if at all.

 

[arthwollipot]

Abaddon has already compiled a sample list here.

I'll reprint it for the readers of this thread.

Oh, goodness.

What happened to prophecy #11?

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Oh, goodness.

What happened to prophecy #11?

Prophecy eleven was that there would be no prophecy eleven. Prophecy eleven divided by zero and imploded.

 

[timhau]

20121024.1135

We can discuss here the prophecies of the spirit of Ama that have happened, are happening, or conceived to have not happened at all.

Ama is the spirit who we (plural) cannot see or touch but can hear and talk to Him in our sessions with Him. Since there is a sound, we can record on audio tape our sessions.

The physical body that He uses is that of the blind 73-year-old woman Maria Liwayway Alvaran, also known as Ka Apaz, of Baliwag, Bulacan, Philippines.

http://www.crap.fi/images/archive/7254.gif

 

[gabeygoat]

In the absence of such an option, I've reported this thread to the mods.

I will not be participating further in this discussion. I've had quite enough of this "Ama" nonsense, thankyouverymuch.

As frustrating as it can be, I do enjoy the threads in some weird perverse way. I sometimes feel a bit guilty about it though.

 

[pakeha]

Hi, PC.
As you see, no-one here believes Maria Liwayway Alvaran channels any spirit at all.
Just out of curiosity, could you post up any articles about her that you've seen in the press?

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Abaddon has already compiled a sample list here.

I'll reprint it for the readers of this thread.

@Foster Zygote, #9

Thank you, Foster Zygote, for posting the list of prophecies of Ama prepared by abaddon. The list was posted at the thread “The crucifixion of Jesus”. The mod may not like that we go off-topic in that thread so I opened this new one where we can discuss the topic properly.

1. Ama’s prophecy. Not yet fulfilled.
2. Ama’s prophecy. Not yet fulfilled.
3. Ama’s prophecy. Not yet fulfilled.
4. Not Ama’s prophecy. I mentioned this before. Judge Floro consults dwarves. Their names are Luis, Armand, and Angel. I consult a spirit who we (plural) call Ama, the Filipino word for God the Father when capitalized. I wish to emphasize that the experience of talking to a spirit, tape recorded, is not exclusive to me. Anyone present may talk to Him that is why I say "we (plural)".
5. Ama’s prophecy. Failed. Ama mentioned that the world war would start from the Philippines before (or during) the 2012 Olympic Games (OG) in London on a Wednesday. I gave my interpretations. The OG successfully ended on 08-12 but the tensions at the Spratly Islands remain.
6. Ama’s prophecy. Not yet fulfilled.
7. Ama’s revelations which I first heard in 1983 – May 23 birth and August 17 crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. The crucifixion is being discussed in this Religion and Philosophy forum. Afterwards, the birth will be discussed.
I found the August 17 crucifixion true and correct in my study from 1999 to 2003. The results are in http://aristean.org/crucifyidx.htm .
I also found the May 23 birth true and correct in my study from 2004 to 2006. The results are in http://aristean.org/birthmay23.htm .
8. I said this. I also said to pick up what will be good for your soul and discard what is evil. Just because Ama was wrong, do I just discard about Him altogether? No, I will not.
9. Not Ama’s prophecy. I picked out this number from the Holy Bible, Revelation 9:16. It is only now that this can be realized. Only China has this capacity.
10. Ama’s prophecy. Failed. Same as #5.

To be continued.

 

[timhau]

Note the lack of successufl prophesies.

 

[Slowvehicle]

I'd like to hear PeaceCrusader explain why he lied to the members of this forum when he said that he would denounce Ka Apaz/"Ama" as a false prophet if the London Olympic Games prophecy failed, why he lied again after that failure saying he would stop discussing Ama's prophecies, and why after that debacle we should take anything else that he or Ama says seriously.

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