The prophecies of Ama

[PeaceCrusader]

Abaddon has already compiled a sample list here.

I'll reprint it for the readers of this thread.

@Foster Zygote, #9

I will continue abaddon’s list which Foster Zygote posted to clear this up:

11. I don’t know what it is.
12. I think it will be a worldwide nuclear war because of the number of deaths. Ama said that only a third will remain (http://aristean.org/c07a-pah1.mp3 ). Maybe, about two billion people.
13. I said that China fired on its weather satellite. So it has the technology to knock out enemy’s satellites.
14. Not Ama’s prophecy, but yes, I believe that World War III is predicted in the Chinese’s I-Ching and by Nostradamus.
15. What I have been sharing are from Ama who I believe is the spirit of Jesus Christ. You may read the English translation of some in http://aristean.org/sermon.htm .
16. I suggested this because Ama said that we should have something to eat to survive for three days and three night, like food that we just cut with a knife (fruits, e.g., I guess).
17. Ama did not say the ratio of men to women. I just gave that estimate. Ama said that men will have one, two, three, four, five wives. He said that there will be a lot a women as compared to men. But men will not be satisfied.
18. I do not know what you meant by “nuclear winter”. Ama said that it will take one year, maybe to clear up to smoke. But for the first three days and three nights, we will die if we go out. I thought that after three days and three nights, the corpses have to be buried.
19. Ama’s prophecy. Not fulfilled yet. The dwelling places will just be given away free because there will be a lot of them for the few survivors.
20. Ama’s prophecy. Not fulfilled yet. He said that we will go back to bartering. So there must be no money anymore. Just bartering.
21. Ama’s prophecies. Ama said that Jesus was born on May 23, and died on August 17. I was able to prove that these are true and correct. The year when He was born? 33 BC. The year when He died? 1 BC. Currently, there is a thread here at Religion and Philosophy where the crucifixion of Jesus is being discussed.
22. Ama did not make these as prophecies. St. Evangeline is a cherub who speaks like with a cleft lip, “ngongo” in Filipino. According to Angelina Imden, Jesus assigned her to dig up the past physical bodies of Ka Apaz. About twenty years ago, she had dug up 75 bodies then who look like each other and are in coffins. I have to see this myself to say whether it is true or not.
23. I suggested draft excluders and tapes to seal off the house to prevent smoke from coming in.

 

[Stomatopoda]

For someone who wishes for nuclear war so badly, you don't seem to have even the slightest ounce of a clue about the effects of nuclear weapons.

"smoke" = lol

 

[MIKILLINI]

20121024.1135

We can discuss here the prophecies of the spirit of Ama that have happened, are happening, or conceived to have not happened at all.

Ama is the spirit who we (plural) cannot see or touch but can hear and talk to Him in our sessions with Him. Since there is a sound, we can record on audio tape our sessions.

The physical body that He uses is that of the blind 73-year-old woman Maria Liwayway Alvaran, also known as Ka Apaz, of Baliwag, Bulacan, Philippines.

Why would a blind 73 year old woman be chosen as prophet? Is this the standard that more people would pay attention to and listen or would most say that she's experiencing dementia, Alzheimers or is just plain loco? How is this believable at all?

 

[Craig B]

@PeceCrusader

You tell us

Ama did not make these as prophecies. St. Evangeline is a cherub who speaks like with a cleft lip, “ngongo” in Filipino. According to Angelina Imden, Jesus assigned her to dig up the past physical bodies of Ka Apaz. About twenty years ago, she had dug up 75 bodies then who look like each other and are in coffins. I have to see this myself to say whether it is true or not.

No you don't, really. You can assume it's not true until you find evidence that it is, and let me tell you that there is no seven feet tall woman in England or anywhere else doing such things.

And now you introduce us to a cherub who speaks like with a cleft lip! There is something preternatural - almost superhuman - about the phantasmagoria that has taken up residence in your mind.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

Just please tell me why you encode the date and time of your posts? The information is logged automatically.

@Loss Leader, #34

I do not post the date and time of my posts anymore. They are for my own info. You are right, the info is logged automatically of when it is posted, but not when I start responding to it. Only the name of the poster and the message number remain though.

 

[AdMan]

I'd like to hear PeaceCrusader explain why he lied to the members of this forum when he said that he would denounce Ka Apaz/"Ama" as a false prophet if the London Olympic Games prophecy failed, why he lied again after that failure saying he would stop discussing Ama's prophecies, and why after that debacle we should take anything else that he or Ama says seriously.

PeaceCrusader, I'm repeating this post in case you missed it. Will you respond to it, or let us know why you will not answer the questions? These are important questions to other members of this forum.

 

[arthwollipot]

@Loss Leader, #34

I do not post the date and time of my posts anymore. They are for my own info. You are right, the info is logged automatically of when it is posted, but not when I start responding to it. Only the name of the poster and the message number remain though.

You don't need to do that, either. If you click on the little arrow button next to the name, it'll take you directly to the post you are quoting.

 

[Mojo]

...let me tell you that there is no seven feet tall woman in England...

Seven foot two, and with a car so useless that it takes her eight hours to get to the nearest city from the mountain where she lives.

 

[gambling_cruiser]

Seven foot two, and with a car so useless that it takes her eight hours to get to the nearest city from the mountain where she lives.

Maybe this she giant is riding on a broomstick?
Are there special speed limits for broomsticks in the uk?
Or is she incompetend in broomstick riding and falls off so often?
I have to e-mail J.K. Rowling to inquire!

 

[pakeha]

Why would a blind 73 year old woman be chosen as prophet? Is this the standard that more people would pay attention to and listen or would most say that she's experiencing dementia, Alzheimers or is just plain loco? How is this believable at all?

The medium has been at it for over 50 years.
She's also a faith healer, according to PC.

22. Ama did not make these as prophecies. St. Evangeline is a cherub who speaks like with a cleft lip, “ngongo” in Filipino. According to Angelina Imden, Jesus assigned her to dig up the past physical bodies of Ka Apaz. About twenty years ago, she had dug up 75 bodies then who look like each other and are in coffins. I have to see this myself to say whether it is true or not.

We've already shown you there is no St Evangeline, PC.
None.


The rest of the story would have warned off any sane person that this is all sheer bunkum.

 

[Marcus]

Am I in time to coin the word 'Olympocalypse' and the phrase 'Olympocalyptic Fail'?

I always wanted to coin something.

That does have a nice ring to it. Given the amount of goalpost transportation we have seen already, we may get the chance to use it frequently four years from now.

 

[Agatha]

There is no Saint Evangeline.

There never was an Egyptian princess called Reneliniyindi, nor is that an Egyptian name. This non-existent princess did not marry Philip I.

There is no Angelina Imden residing in England, and there is no place in England which is eight hours from a city. There is no possible way a person could import corpses without coming to the notice of the Border Agency or HMRC. Preventing lawful burial is a crime. This Angelina Imden character could not have been heir to the Helene Curtis cosmetics fortune. All these things are easily checkable, which is something Ama did not take into account when she made up this ridiculous story.

On these three things alone, Ama has lied to you. Not just made vague prophecies which are unlikely ever to come true, but flat out lied. Lying is a direct contravention of the commandment not to bear false witness, and the Bible forbids the consulting of mediums, spirits and the like. You've been fooled by a liar, Aristeo, and the sooner you realise this the better your life will become.

 

[Croydon Bob]

You tell us No you don't, really. You can assume it's not true until you find evidence that it is, and let me tell you that there is no seven feet tall woman in England or anywhere else doing such things.

The tallest woman in England is 6ft 10. So it is a 100% fail from the start.

 

[Elizabeth I]

You don't need to do that, either. If you click on the little arrow button next to the name, it'll take you directly to the post you are quoting.

Good luck. He's been told that repeatedly too. Impervious would seem to be a good word for PC, with regard to all sorts of subjects.

 

[PeaceCrusader]

PeaceCrusader, I'm repeating this post in case you missed it. Will you respond to it, or let us know why you will not answer the questions? These are important questions to other members of this forum.

@AdMan, #46

Like what you are doing now, there were pressures that I answer the questions. I was certain that I heard what Ama said. It was recorded on tape.

In my going to the Philippines last May (2012-05), He said Wednesday on the first brief session. I did not expect of His coming. He does not come regularly anymore that is why the session was not recorded on tape. I did not expect that He would reveal Wednesday as well.

I had questions ready afterwards for elaboration and with a recorder ready in case He pops in. And He did pop in on 05-04. The session lasted for about an hour.

You may have read the English translation of what He said. He mentioned the coming 2012 Olympic Games (OG) in London. That was unexpected. So we have a world war coming from the Philippines in the middle of the year (I have heard these before) on a Wednesday on or before the OG.

I did my own interpretations on these based on logic. First was 07-04 because of a sneak attack on the adversary while it is in celebration mode. The date was near the middle day of the year, 07-01 or 07-02. When it did not happen, I said 07-18, the last Wednesday in the zodiac sign of Cancer, because the society that we have now is like cancer. It did not happen. So I say that it would be on 07-25, the last Wednesday before the OG, and still in the middle of the year (June and July are the middle months of the year). It did not happen also. So I said that it would be on 08-08, the last Wednesday during the OG and still in the middle of the year (the second and third quarters are the middle quarters of the year and August is in the third quarter), and like 888 which is the number of Jesus. An eight is missing in 88, and I thought that the other eight must be the Holy Spirit. The OG ended successfully on 08-12 and I admit that the prophecy failed.

I was confident that the prophecy would happen because I see that the 19 prophecies that He gave on 1979-10-19 have happened, are happening, or will still happen like the third prophecy of universal unrest. Also, I, myself, have proven that His revelations of the May 23 birth and August 17 crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ are true and correct. Why His prophecy of a world war coming from the Philippines did not happen is a puzzle to me. My only consolation is that there is still the tensions at the Spratly Islands on why a world war would start from the Philippines.

I found and translated the English what He says about prophecy. I also found that He said in 1998 that the proposed Aristean calendar would be implemented in 2001. Logically, I believe it would. It is already 2012 and it is still unimplemented. Now, I say that His prophecies and the Aristean calendar will happen “in His time”, in God’s time.

 

[Multivac]

Maybe this she giant is riding on a broomstick?
Are there special speed limits for broomsticks in the uk?
Or is she incompetend in broomstick riding and falls off so often?
I have to e-mail J.K. Rowling to inquire!

There are strict speedlimits for broomsticks, or "magic propelled flying devices", to use the correct terminology. Anyone caught speeding on a broomstick will be turned into a frog and sold to a French restaurant.

 

[Craig B]

@PC

Why His prophecy of a world war coming from the Philippines did not happen is a puzzle to me. My only consolation is that there is still the tensions at the Spratly Islands on why a world war would start from the Philippines.

It has been pointed out to you that statements of that kind are not very nice. In fact, it is impossible for the human mind to conceive, or tongue to express, an idea more revolting than that the prospect of a world war is a "consolation"! In the name of pity, did the Philippines not suffer more than enough during the last one, let alone much of the rest of the planet?

 

[fagin]

... Why His prophecy of a world war coming from the Philippines did not happen is a puzzle to me. My only consolation is that there is still the tensions at the Spratly Islands on why a world war would start from the Philippines.

Seriously, I don't think you understand what you are actually saying, and if you do, you are one sick mother.

 

[pakeha]

...I was confident that the prophecy would happen because I see that the 19 prophecies that He gave on 1979-10-19 have happened, are happening, or will still happen like the third prophecy of universal unrest. ...

Actually, PC, if you read the predictions of other mediums and sooth-sayers you'll find much the same language, vagueness and total lack of accuracy.
Which prediction of your medium actually came to pass?

 

[Mojo]

My only consolation is that there is still the tensions at the Spratly Islands on why a world war would start from the Philippines.

Here's one I prepared earlier:

I have one consolation though. Despite that the OG has already been closed, there is still the possibility that the Spratly Island dispute being claimed by the Philippines could bring a world war.

You are consoling yourself with the thought that billions of people may be wiped out as a result of a minor territorial dispute?

Lovely.

Remember: even if this war were to happen, the prophecy would still have failed because the prophecy was that this conflict would prevent the 2012 Olympic games from taking place.

The games have taken place on schedule. The prophecy has failed.

All you are consoling yourself with is the thought that billions of people might still be wiped out.