The Professor's Halloween performance - any info?

Senex said:
You're linking Mr. Koenig's never even attempted to prove claimed abilities with something that should be further considered.

That seems foolish today given the time and effort many people have given to let him have his moment in the sun (or at midnight in the devil's chair).
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Yes, I was one of those who offered some suggestions as to how he could have his, er, moment at midnight? Yeah I guess that works.

The main point of discussion of the thread seems to be that he actually did try to get into the cemetary at night, for what I can only assume was an attempt to perform his demonstration. He did therefore attempt to prove something or other, but was stopped by his own foolhardiness.

~ Matt
 
Sorry, no ;)

It turned out the Halloween performance was to be by Jim Callahan*, though Dave Koenig certainly gave the impression that he (DK) was the one doing the performance - even though he was just along for the ride or assisting or filming it for YouTube or doing the catering or holding the flashlight or something.

Pah, I forget. TP threads make me confused.

* His ISP (International Seance Project).

ETA - Jim's site. Seems it was to involve the death of a 94yo woman. You guys probably know this already - this is the first time I've actually been further than the front page of his site. Pretty sure it's been mentioned earlier in this thread as well.
 
Sorry Matt,I don't believe Koneig believes he can create EVP's.No previous examples of this are to be found,nor mention until his supposed claim for MDC.
 
Azrael 5 said:
Sorry Matt,I don't believe Koneig believes he can create EVP's.No previous examples of this are to be found,nor mention until his supposed claim for MDC.
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From the few seconds of time I can manage to stand the Magic Cafe's "Take the Challenge..." forum, it doesn't look like there was much notice of him at all before he applied.

In relation to your statement about Mr. Koenig not believing in EVP, I offer this as some testament to me believing he does. I'm willing to trust him when he speaks about himself, which may be where I've been going wrong this whole time:

David Koenig said:
I honestly believe that ITC and EVP are real and Paranormal Events that incorporate these things happen all of the time.
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~ Matt
 
Senex said:
I look at the MDC contestents as falling into three camps: The sincere ones who will fail because their delusion has no chance against a scientific test -- and the insincere ones who know darn well they will never be able to win a fair challenge but hope to create some benefit from media attention before quiting.

The professor fell into the latter camp and lost more dignity than would have been expected a month ago. He quit in a terriibly undignified manner. He kind of sucks. Does he have a defender? If not, we can all agree the professor sucks and move on.

Of course there is also the potential third camp we all wish would happen. Proof of god/afterlife/spirits/X-ray vision... I doubt anyone reading this will hold their breath this will turn out to be true.
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It was apparent from the start that he was in the second camp. There was always that faint hope, however, that he was sincere, which is probably why a lot of us continued to humor him.
 
Senex said:
Umm, Matt. What part of thoroughly discredited did you miss?



I believe he always knew he couldn't pass a test. He might have thought he could dodge agreeing to particular rules that would have made any noise on the tape ambiguous if rules were not part of the test. The JREF insists on rules and that made his efforts impossible. He complained and answered posts that had nothing to do with the posts that were related to questions that he couldn't answer truthfully without stating he was full of poop. He always knew he had no special abilities.

Personally, I don't think the professor falls in the first category. I do believe a woman currently posting in the "General Skepticism..." category is sincere. I doubt she will stick around much longer now that she is being asked questions that challenge assumptions she believes are true and wishes were never challenged. She will quit this site blaming insensitivity or something similar. She falls in the first category as truly believing in her power (but not enough to realize it isn't a power when unable to prove that power by passing a test). I believe she believes she has powers. I also believe she will fail any tests she s willing to take but she will continue to believe she has powers even after she fails testing. (It is very possible she will refuse to be tested -- if that happens I will say she might fall in the second camp and just wanted publicity.)

However, the professor always realized his impotency.
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I probably didn't word it well. I'm not naive enough to think that he believed in psychic ability or that EVP's are paranormal. I meant that he was like the first camp in that he had a real NEED to think there was something special about himself, just like people who are self-deluded and believe they have special abilities that raise them above the norm. He was just extrememly cynical about it. His need was for OTHERS to think he was special.

I frankly don't think we'ver heard the last of him. He cannot escape that need for recognition and he got it here in spades.

By the way, isn't there supposed to be some sort of video or audio from Friday that was supposed to wow us?
 
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RoboTimbo Friday never happened so there will be no video or audio.It is funny reading back through the Prof's threads now.Talk of media exposes,seance experimentsand as you say video evidence.The only thing exposed was Jim's ineptness.
 
Azrael 5 said:
RoboTimbo Friday never happened so there will be no video or audio.It is funny reading back through the Prof's threads now.Talk of media exposes,seance experimentsand as you say video evidence.The only thing exposed was Jim's ineptness.
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I wonder how long Chillzero will let us keep talking about him in the past tense.
 
I don't know what it has to do with me.

I'll repeat: post on topic, or let this thread die.
 
Has anyone spotted anything about the second attempt that they were hinting might take place on Friday 7th?
 
You know who was busy sqwaking on Magic Cafe earlier that he was still going for the million and his protocol was being worked on!
Until his post got deleted! :D

Prof if you're reading this..it's over man.Give it up :)
 
Off topic posts and bickering moved to AAH. Keep it on topic, guys, and keep it civil.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
If TP is naming names and making accusations against specific people,couldn't there be some kind of legal action taken? Especially if his accusations are false? Obviously that would make him cry more about JREF/MDC being unfair and against him,but dragging peoples names through the mud with no real evidence is outrageous.
 
PP the thing is-like his buddy Jim Callahan,no-one takes what he says seriously,even people on magic cafe! Hollow vessels make most noise remember? ;)
 
Derail moved. Keep it on topic, or the thread will be closed.
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Snow said:
In his MDC thread The Professor professed -



I'm surprised that TP hasn't yet posted to inform us of his success at whatever it is he was planning to do. My google-fu is weak, anyone have any info on what happened?
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I am so saddened that the JREF MDC choose not to attend the events that were so successful and enlightening!

I really wanted them there. I also offered to let any interested members of the JREF Forum attend if you remember correctly. (Not sure if those invitations have been deleted or not) I even offered a $25,000.00 credit (Against the million dollar reward) to those who assisted in the event.

I will be revealing the evidence very soon. It will be AMAZING to all!

More coming :)
 
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