Trebuchet
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At last count, The Interview will be opening in 262 theaters tomorrow. That's 261 more than the opening theaters for The Principle. Just sayin'.
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"The Principle" - anti-Copernican movie
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Latest update: Currently showing at only one of the three theaters listed in the film's website, the other two don't list it any more. No idea if it's opened anywhere else. Total take as of a week ago was $51,207. That won't pay the bills. Weekend box office dropped from $24,145 the weekend of January 23-25 to $7120 Jan 30-Feb 1. That's not surprising, the true believers will go to the opening and nobody much else is interested.
(Largely pasted from my other forum.)
(Largely pasted from my other forum.)
I checked the movie's Facebook and Twitter feeds:
The Principle on Facebook
The Principle Movie (@PrincipleMovie) | Twitter
Jan 30:
Jan 31: Some people in Spokane WA and Orange CA saw it.
Feb 4-5: Some places where the movie may be shown next:
Madison WI
Houston, Katy TX
Indianapolis, Greenfield IN
Harrisburg, PA
They state that they are about 300 - 350 tickets away from showing the movie.
Finally, hasn't anyone here bothered to try to see it?
The Principle on Facebook
The Principle Movie (@PrincipleMovie) | Twitter
Jan 30:
Jan 31: Some people in Spokane WA and Orange CA saw it.
Feb 4-5: Some places where the movie may be shown next:
Madison WI
Houston, Katy TX
Indianapolis, Greenfield IN
Harrisburg, PA
They state that they are about 300 - 350 tickets away from showing the movie.
Finally, hasn't anyone here bothered to try to see it?
Aepervius
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Only if i find a way to watch it legally for free. It does not seem likely at this point.
The Principle on Facebook -- it will come out on DVD and Blu-Ray in October or November
Here's where it's been shown in movie theaters:
Chicago, IL -- 2014 Oct 14 - Oct 30, Nov 7 - Nov 13
Burbank, CA, Orange, CA, Spokane, WA -- 2015 Jan 23 - Feb 5
Madison WI, Harrisburg PA, San Diego CA -- 2015 Mar 13 - 26
Omaha NE, Cincinnati OH, New Castle PA -- 2015 Apr 24 - 30
Albuquerque NM -- 2015 May 17
Here's its total box-office take, up to April 30: $89,543 (The Principle (2014) - Box Office Mojo)
Here's where it's been shown in movie theaters:
Chicago, IL -- 2014 Oct 14 - Oct 30, Nov 7 - Nov 13
Burbank, CA, Orange, CA, Spokane, WA -- 2015 Jan 23 - Feb 5
Madison WI, Harrisburg PA, San Diego CA -- 2015 Mar 13 - 26
Omaha NE, Cincinnati OH, New Castle PA -- 2015 Apr 24 - 30
Albuquerque NM -- 2015 May 17
Here's its total box-office take, up to April 30: $89,543 (The Principle (2014) - Box Office Mojo)
John Nowak
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I'm not sure if the original comment is quite correct, since the rotating earth is an accelerating frame of reference.
It's more an interesting mathematical curiosity than anything else. You can pick an immobile earth as your frame of reference; in fact, we do this all the time when asking directions to the nearest Starbucks, or even how to get to the bathroom on a moving aircraft.
But when you extend that frame of reference outwards you start getting very weird math. If you can do this with the accelerated frame of the rotating earth, the speed of light increases as you get further away from earth, and so on.
Obviously, nobody does that "for reals," but it's an interesting math exercise.
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It doesn't rotate, according to Sungenis.
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Should be on a streaming site relatively soon then. Been wanting to see how someone justifies a completely geocentric viewpoint for a while now, if only for the lols.
John Nowak
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Yeah, but I'm trying to address the problems of translating from one frame of reference to another.
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Wouldn't that mean that the entire universe would have to be going that much faster?
Judging from the Videos | The Principle, it's because of cosmological-scale structures like the "Axis of Evil" showing that the Earth has a cosmically special position. (Planck shows almost perfect cosmos – plus axis of evil | New Scientist, What Is Evil About The Axis Of Evil? - "The Principle" Movie)
That's grasping at straws, because at best, it shows that it is the Local Group that has a cosmically special position. Our Galaxy doesn't have a special position in the Local Group, the Sun doesn't have a special position in our Galaxy, and the Earth does not have a special position in our Solar System.
The movie's makers have a hashtag #areyousignificant about being cosmically significant.
Bertrand Russell once wrote The Theologian's Nightmare, about discovering how cosmically insignificant our planet is. That seems to describe the viewpoint of "The Principle"'s makers very well.
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well, we'd obviously be thrown off if it did!
You are trying to apply logic to a loon. To quote Adam Savage: "Now THERE'S your problem".
Sungenis is also a raving holocaust denier and anti-semite. His own church has ordered him to tone that down or stop using "Catholic" on his hate sites.
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The true irony here is that they are over reaching looking for that.
I say that because from my understanding (so take that with a grain of salt) on the mater is that the universe is spherical. One of the special properties of a sphere, as a geometric shape, is that any and all points on the sphere are at the center. Including the earth.
Why must believers make things more complicated than they strictly need to, right?
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Rincewind
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Where's that from?
In the Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker cosmology, the Universe's dimensions split up into 3 space and 1 time dimension. The 3 space dimensions have "maximal symmetry", as it's called. There are three possibilities: plane-like, circle-like, and hyperboloid-like (zero, constant positive, and constant negative curvature).
From the most recent measurements, the 3-space part of the Universe's space-time has a curvature of less than 1% the overall space-time curvature, using the Universe's present overall density as a measure (Lambda-CDM modelWP).
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The Milne model of the universe.
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Please, please!
Oh no, I'm not trying to apply logic...
I'm poking fun at...
Yes, you were, sorry. Can we just turn Sungenis over to your Luggage?