thank you. enjoy the lobster.
The pot calling the kettle black...
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thank you. enjoy the lobster.
No, as we all know, media spin only exists in the US and Israel, everywhere else government spokespersons tell the truth always.
Right. Because ALL politicians can never be trusted. Regardless if you have any evidence suggesting the specific politician is a liar.
Remember JFK? Remember 9-11? We can't trust dem' politicians!!!
Plus this politician is an Arab, and we ALL know..you just can't trust them A-rabs.
Plus this politician is an Arab, and we ALL know..you just can't trust them A-rabs.
My best friend is a Lebanese of Arab descent. My co-worker is Iranian and I am a jew. It's quite fun because we all endlessly heckle each other because of our backgrounds. Yet I trust them both and they trust me.
So I personally don't feel that "you just can't trust them A-rabs."
so, what reason could you have for not believing this Jordanian politician?
if it is not cause he is an Arab, than what?
Not even gonna try? At least give us your impression of what it could mean and imply.
Please, pretty please.
ddt
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Yes, and did you notice this HRW report was from the day-before-yesterday? This is the kind of stories that goes on quite unattended in the MSM.
Time will tell if you're also one of those people. Thus far my only experience with you as fellow-poster is that you ignore evidence others provide.
In post #5 you asked:
so that settles it. I had heard of it, I had read that thread at the time it was current.
I'm not surprised you didn't pick up on the analogy. Of course it's not perfect. But it's the same phenomenon as with the traffic accidents.
Israels neighbour states never asked for the Palestinian refugees and they don't move an inch more than needed to accommodate them. Tell us something new. I don't see a nefarious plan to keep the Pals stateless - I "just" see that those states rather use the Pals as political pawns than treat them in a humanitarian way. Jordan was the positive exception; when it annexed the West Bank in 1950 (recognized only by the UK), it also granted Jordanian nationality to its citizens. I don't yet fully see how this puts pressure on Israel. No Israeli PM has ever lost a minute sleep over the abysmal conditions the 400,000 Palestinians in Lebanon live.
What has 9/11 to do with this? I compared an airplane accident with the daily traffic deaths. For instance, the crash of a Turkish airliner near Amsterdam last year caused two dozen or so deaths. It was the first item on the evening news for two weeks. The number of casualties is dwarfed by the 700 traffic deaths per year - that's 2 every day. Yet those never get to the news. Why? Because two dozen deaths at once is a big item. Likewise, a terrorist attack is news because it costs many lives. Likewise, the Israel incursion into Gaza was big news because it was a massive operation at once. The seeping process of two traffic deaths a day is not. Neither is the seeping process of a couple of Palestinian Jordanians each day having their citizenship revoked. Or that Israel changes the residency rights of a couple of Palestinians living in the West Bank or East Jerusalem each day. There isn't a single day where such processes are a big item. At most, when a HRW or Amnesty report is published about it. Yet, such processes may very well have a bigger impact on the future of the region than the whole Gaza war of last year.
(and this answers also Pardalis' remark about my analogy).
You repeat yourself. Take care you don't play another album that remains stuck in the same groove.
you are illiterate? you can't do a web search?
you don't have a library? you trust everything I say?
do your own fact-finding buddy. I'm not your mother.
Actually, Zardoz hit it on the head, what "pending reunification of families" means is exactly that: According to Jordan, until Palestinians are "reunited" with their families in the West Bank, which is to say once they get their state (whatever which way, either by the two-state solution, the one-state solution, or the obliteration of Israel), they will consider and Palestinians as stateless.
But the problem is alot of those Palestinian Jordanians have made their lives in Jordan, and have established their family and home there.
So they are relinquishing the responsibility of their own Palestinians citizens back to Israel, tossing the hot potato to Israel.
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applecorped
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Um, what?
btw - 2,669 United States casualties, 329 foreign nationals (excluding the nineteen perpetrators) also perished in the attacks.
I'm asking for your view on what that means, your interpretation, I certainly can not find that on Google or in the library, can I?
what do you care, what I think? this is clearly an issue of literal definition and explanation.
I'm not gonna tell you what I think. You are just gonna have to suffer. I'm sure you'll be just fine.
FireGarden
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Haven't read the thread, so maybe this have been quoted:
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=258405
Maan news being
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'an_News_Agency
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=258405
Maan news being
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'an_News_Agency
I repeat myself verbatim because semantic obfuscation is a very popular game at JREF. I've seen pages and pages wasted putting the train back on the tracks merely because a poster said something slighlty different than what they said a couple posts earlier. You should be happy that I am working to be precise.
Thanks for the link. Actually that link has not been quoted but it's just a rehash of the original news story that is making it's way across the globe since Monday Feb the 1st. What I find telling is that HRW claims Jordan has been doing this since 2004. I am curious why I cannot find anything concrete prior to a couple days ago regarding this subject. Seems it was a little-known until HRW released a report on it. My position is if HRW is good enough to shine a spotlight on Israel, then it certainly must be good enough to shine a spotlight on Jordan.