The other crime wave in Chicago

[The Big Dog]

Much has been said about the murder rate in Chicago, which ordinarily picks up in the Summer. The phrase is: "Sun's out, Guns Out."

The other summer crime wave in Chicago gets much less press. That other wave is groups of teens, primarily black, using social media to organize roving gangs who create chaos and randomly attack tourists, each other and commit crimes.

They typically commute up the the downtown area on the red line, causing havoc throughout the system

Here is a story from the Tribune, which includes a fairly graphic video of a beating: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-downtown-teens-20180529-story.html

Last night groups were pushing people into Lake Michigan.

Here is a pretty good update on the latest crime sprees.

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/06/streeterville-groups-of-offenders.html

As such, if you are visiting Chicago this summer, keep your head on a swivel.

 

[casebro]

Sounds like time to check phone records, go for felony Incitement. Or do they have to wait for somebody to die,and prosecute them all for murder ?

 

[mgidm86]

So these teens aren't just starting massive brawls in shopping malls anymore?

"Teens"? How do they know they are all teens? Not one of them was over 19? Seems like an odd way to describe large groups of people.

Can we just be honest? I'll start. These are large groups of black people, that is the most obvious way to describe them. But we can only call them blacks if they are:

Thrown out of Starbucks
Asked not to BBQ in a park
Being treated badly by anyone

But here we simply get "teens".
In all the shopping mall fight stories - teens.
Beatings on subway platforms - teens.

And this is about the media and how they choose to report, not me, not anyone here. This is what I see them doing. This doesn't help anyone.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm sick of the dishonesty and the clever P.C. words. I don't want to single out black people - they are being singled out by the media not me, and "protecting them" or whatever the hell it is by calling them teens is making it worse.

Reporting on every perceived slight, like the Starbucks thing is just continuing to single them out - hey everyone, remember how different black people are? Here's a reminder, WHITE PEOPLE!

There is a narrative right now that there is a rising racist trend in this country. We need to get past this manipulative bullcrap but not enough people seem to see it for what it is.

 

[CaptainHowdy]

Much has been said about the murder rate in Chicago, which ordinarily picks up in the Summer. The phrase is: "Sun's out, Guns Out."

The other summer crime wave in Chicago gets much less press. That other wave is groups of teens, primarily black, using social media to organize roving gangs who create chaos and randomly attack tourists, each other and commit crimes.

They typically commute up the the downtown area on the red line, causing havoc throughout the system

Here is a story from the Tribune, which includes a fairly graphic video of a beating: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-downtown-teens-20180529-story.html

Last night groups were pushing people into Lake Michigan.

Here is a pretty good update on the latest crime sprees.

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/06/streeterville-groups-of-offenders.html

As such, if you are visiting Chicago this summer, keep your head on a swivel.

If White people weren't so racist, this wouldn't happen.

 

[casebro]

If White people weren't so racist, this wouldn't happen.

Especially like the video in the OP, Black on Black crime, is because of the neo Nazis.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Given that >80% of teens in Chicago are non-white, and this kind of thing happens in every major city, I'm not sure why the racial aspect is significant.

I'm totally befuddled as to what the motivations of the posters in this thread are.

 

[Cain]

Chicago teens are what you get when you cross the Muslim Brotherhood with Planet of the Apes.

 

[Scootch]

That is it Cain, your show is cancelled with a capital cancel!

 

[The Big Dog]

Given that >80% of teens in Chicago are non-white, and this kind of thing happens in every major city, I'm not sure why the racial aspect is significant.

I'm totally befuddled as to what the motivations of the posters in this thread are.

Let me get this straight, in every major city hundreds of teens organize themselves on social media and flood into the central business district where they pour into stores and commit violence and property damage so extreme that the police have to assert control over the public transportation system and run express trains out of the area rather than arresting them?

Holy ****, I had no idea. Do you have links, or is one’s motivation coloring your claim?

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Let me get this straight, in every major city hundreds of teens organize themselves on social media and flood into the central business district where they pour into stores and commit violence and property damage so extreme that the police have to assert control over the public transportation system and run express trains out of the area rather than arresting them?

Holy ****, I had no idea. Do you have links, or is one’s motivation coloring your claim?

You seriously haven't heard about flash mobs? This kind of thing has gone on for years. Here they are in Maryland in 2012. Here in Houston in 2011. Here in Brazil. Here in Las Vegas in 2011.

I enjoyed your dramatic reading of the event, but you forgot to bring up race again.

 

[The Big Dog]

You seriously haven't heard about flash mobs? This kind of thing has gone on for years. Here they are in Maryland in 2012. Here in Houston in 2011. Here in Brazil. Here in Las Vegas in 2011.

I enjoyed your dramatic reading of the event, but you forgot to bring up race again.

I cited three in the last month, they have indeed been going on for years in Chicago though, I do agree with that.

Next time I won’t bring their race

 

[dann]

I grew up in a country with no blacks, no brown-skinned people at all. The most exotic ethnicity we had were a couple of Greenlanders now and then, but no youngsters. Did we have crime in Denmark? Yes, of course we did! Did we have "groups of teens" in "roving gangs who create chaos"? Yes, of course we did. They were all ethnic Danes, however, and usually members of the disenfranchised classes.
In the late 1960s, the immigrants started coming to Denmark, many from Turkey. And nowadays we have similar "groups of teens" in "roving gangs who create chaos." The major difference is that it's immediately obvious that the majority of them are children of immigrants. So now we no longer have a problem with "groups of teens," now they are groups of second or third-generation immigrants.

Sometimes "groups of teens" even exhibit the audacity to disturb the Danish minister of (un)employment* when she'd prefer to watch a movie. But, of course, they are not "groups of teens." They are "indvandrerdrenge," 'immigrant boys'. And, of course, when I was their age, we would never ever misbehave in a movie theater! It never happened! I swear!!!
I guess that it's just a coincidence that these "groups of teens" consist of youngsters who are just as underprivileged as the gangs of ethnic Danes back in the 1950s and 1960s.

The problem is class, the problem is poverty, but I don't think that anybody is surprised that TBD thinks it's a question of race.

* A few months later, she was appointed minister of integration!!!

 

[The Big Dog]

I enjoy the comparison between acting rowdy in a movie theatre and attacking people and pushing them in Lake Michigan.

It is fine, we need not point out that they are black any longer (that was why the press sat on the stories in 2011 when the disadvantaged teens (so much more PC) tore apart North Avenue Beach)

We will use the phrase “disadavanteged youths.” As in “a group of disadvantaged youths stomped the **** out of a guy and threw him Lake Michigan.”

Heavily armed Disadvantaged youths commit strong arms robberies. http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2010/05/lakefront-problems.html

 

[casebro]

but we can't use "thugs".

 

[The Big Dog]

Disadvantaged youths taunt victims and again shove them into the Lake.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com

 

[dann]

Here, an unfortunate 19-year-old died last night when he was pushed into a lake. His friends didn't know that he couldn't swim and they tried to rescue him, but in vain.
No ethnicity mentioned. Do we need to know? This spring has been hotter than the whole summer last year, and people get a little silly. At my former high school it used to be a tradition to throw people into the local lake when they graduated.
A tragedy, in this case, but does the story really need a moral other than: Be careful guys! Make sure that you don't push anybody into the lake who can't swim!

 

[The Big Dog]

Here, an unfortunate 19-year-old died last night when he was pushed into a lake. His friends didn't know that he couldn't swim and they tried to rescue him, but in vain.
No ethnicity mentioned. Do we need to know? This spring has been hotter than the whole summer last year, and people get a little silly. At my former high school it used to be a tradition to throw people into the local lake when they graduated.
A tragedy, in this case, but does the story really need a moral other than: Be careful guys! Make sure that you don't push anybody into the lake who can't swim!

His friends pushed him into the lake? I can assure you that the disadavantaged youths pushing people walking along the lakes were not friends with and did not know the people they were attacking. Disadvantaged youths, be careful and ask if the complete strangers you are attacking and throwing in the lake can swim!

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

but we can't use "thugs".

Sure we can! I suspect even the Mighty Obama would say the same thing about this occurrence in his hometown.

This sort of incident also happens a lot in my own hometown of Milwaukee, WI. It is almost always black youths even though many disadvantaged white youths live in the same areas. I think these incidents and other examples of poor behavior by this particular demographic are fueled, not helped or mitigated, by the subtextual race narrative being beamed nationwide by the mainstream media and so called "progressive groups". The theme is that of low expectations and the viewing of such misbehaviors as a result of "systematic racism" or the legacy of slavery. On this view, the ones responsible, and the only ones with any moral agency are the racist white oppressors. This is basically one aspect of the Ta-Nahesi Coates view of race.

 

[dann]

His friends pushed him into the lake? I can assure you that the disadavantaged youths pushing people walking along the lakes were not friends with and did not know the people they were attacking. Disadvantaged youths, be careful and ask if the complete strangers you are attacking and throwing in the lake can swim!

Do you know how deep the water is in the lakes we're talking about? In Copenhagen the lakes don't appear to be very deep near the shore. I've seen people fall as well as being pushed into the lakes and apparently able to stand on the bottom with their heads above the water.
That obviously wasn't the case in the lake where the 19-year-old drowned. (By the way, it's very unusual that a 19-year-old Dane can't swim.)

 

[dann]

On this view, the ones responsible, and the only ones with any moral agency are the racist white oppressors. This is basically one aspect of the Ta-Nahesi Coates view of race.

Have you actually read any of his stuff?! Between the World and Me, for instance? I have, and I didn't find anything remotely similar to what you're describing.