Lothian
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I agree with you, negative campaigning is distasteful.
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The Official UK Election Thread! 6th May it is!
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Rolfe
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Not what I was talking about, I don't think pointing out that donation, or CatBat's reputation, are dirty campaigning, but never mind.
Rolfe.
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Rolfe
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Not really relevant to this election, but I just saw this, from Ben Goldacre's blog.
Gillian McKeith spat out by the Tories
I thought it was going to tell of how they saw through her as a blatant fraud, but it's much tamer than that. She herself withdrew her candidacy.
Rolfe.
Gillian McKeith spat out by the Tories
I thought it was going to tell of how they saw through her as a blatant fraud, but it's much tamer than that. She herself withdrew her candidacy.
Rolfe.
Strange, I thought she would have liked to rake through ****!
Now I think many of us have had a pop at her for her advice and products but that article is very unfair:
Why was that "pretensions" - the HOuse of Commons (for good and bad) is open to us all, I would say it is very snobbish to consider that someone else's ambitions are "pretentious" .
"scuppered" - no it wasn't she just decided to not stand for selction. It would have scuppered if they went on to reveal that something scandalous had come to light or she was ineligible for some reason. Your candidacy isn't scuppered if you no longer want to be a candidate!
What a needlessly nasty piece of so-called journalism.
Why was that "pretensions" - the HOuse of Commons (for good and bad) is open to us all, I would say it is very snobbish to consider that someone else's ambitions are "pretentious" .
"scuppered" - no it wasn't she just decided to not stand for selction. It would have scuppered if they went on to reveal that something scandalous had come to light or she was ineligible for some reason. Your candidacy isn't scuppered if you no longer want to be a candidate!
What a needlessly nasty piece of so-called journalism.
Rolfe
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I suppose it's writing from 20/20 hindsight, after the exploding of not-a-doctor Gillian's pretentions in other areas. I imagine her naivety in just coming out with "I want to be "an" MP for Hampstead" did cause a bit of amusement - it might be fairly easy to get selected as a council candidate, but you have to jump through an awful lot of hoops to make it as an approved parliamentary candidate for any of the major parties, never mind actually get selected for a constituency. I suspect that's the "pretensions" they were talking about. If she'd just stood as an independent, it would have been a different story.
However, I agree the article puts a nasty spin on a fairly innocuous episode where she tried out as a Conservative council candidate but subsequently withdrew her application. What I found interesting was the description of the pushy American husband. I wonder how much of that is true?
Rolfe.
However, I agree the article puts a nasty spin on a fairly innocuous episode where she tried out as a Conservative council candidate but subsequently withdrew her application. What I found interesting was the description of the pushy American husband. I wonder how much of that is true?
Rolfe.
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Worth bringing up again:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/18/charlie-brooker-bnp-racism
The BNP represents Britain's workers? They don't even represent basic British craftsmanship
This years broadcast:
God, it's awful. It's like a satire. The 'interviews' (cough) with people on the street are -as Brooker said about the last one- like the participants in a particularly bad B&Q advert, or reminiscent of one of Al Qeada's hostages being forced to denounce the West.
For a party that makes one of its signature policies the fight against Islam, they certainly share a lot with Islamists. Both send out videos with poor sound, grainy quality and hideously unattractive representatives of their idealised religion/race.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/18/charlie-brooker-bnp-racism
The BNP represents Britain's workers? They don't even represent basic British craftsmanship
This years broadcast:
God, it's awful. It's like a satire. The 'interviews' (cough) with people on the street are -as Brooker said about the last one- like the participants in a particularly bad B&Q advert, or reminiscent of one of Al Qeada's hostages being forced to denounce the West.
For a party that makes one of its signature policies the fight against Islam, they certainly share a lot with Islamists. Both send out videos with poor sound, grainy quality and hideously unattractive representatives of their idealised religion/race.
It's below the belt I know but I can't help myself - he says he has four "beautiful" children - are they adopted?
Have a close look at the section that mentions they are Britian's fastest growing political party (about the 2.02 mark) note the island of BNP posters in the sea of empty seats!
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A quibble with the line about British servicemen in WW2: "They fought to keep Britain British".
No, they fought to keep Britain Britain, i.e. a country which isn't run by racist anti-intellectuals. In simple terms, the kind of country in which stiff lipped Mr Montague discusses the West Indies chances with Mr Patel over his garden fence. To be binded together over something as whimsical and charming as Cricket or Tea rather than something as outdated and pointless as race.
A cup of tea is undoubtedly British, and the fact that it originated from outside these Isles doesn't make it less so. The BNP's philosophy would have to contest that.
No, they fought to keep Britain Britain, i.e. a country which isn't run by racist anti-intellectuals. In simple terms, the kind of country in which stiff lipped Mr Montague discusses the West Indies chances with Mr Patel over his garden fence. To be binded together over something as whimsical and charming as Cricket or Tea rather than something as outdated and pointless as race.
A cup of tea is undoubtedly British, and the fact that it originated from outside these Isles doesn't make it less so. The BNP's philosophy would have to contest that.
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funk de fino
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I agree with you on this.
Lothian
should be banned
Haven't wathed the clip yet. Not sure if I can face it. In WWII the Indian Army was under British command, 2 1/2 million Indians fought for Britian along with other colonial troups. There were also Poles, Czechs, French, Belgians, Dutch, Norwegians, Finns, Danish fighting for Britian. Without the Poles Enigma would not have been cracked.
When they talk about foreigners "flooding" the country there is some black and footage of (I think) a spitfire - given their cock-up with the Polish squadron you'd have though they'd have remembered that we needed those "foreigners flooding us" to help "us" fight WWII.
Well said.
Nick Griffin was just on the radio: he was talkng about the repatriation policy. Forced deportation for certain people (radical muslims mainly) and generous financial incentives for others. He went on to say that muslims who can accept there is no place for radical islam are not a problem so long as they agree that we need to tackle their higher birth rate
Whatever can this mean???
Whatever can this mean???
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So not only will he waste millions on giving money for 're'patriation, he will cause our country to lose billions when he realises that our hospitals and other institutions are chronically understaffed, causing him to waste even more billions when he has to fund the training of all the unskilled 'British' workers he wants to fill their place.
Withdrawing from Europe will lead to the UK far more vulnerable to terrorist attacks (Fairwell Europol, Eurojust), and all the thinking intellectuals -scientists, artists, historians, sociologists- will collectively slit their throats with their polling cards when they wake up to Griffin's hideous half-alive mug standing outside No10 on the morning of May 7th.
Just what you need in a time of global uncertainty!
Withdrawing from Europe will lead to the UK far more vulnerable to terrorist attacks (Fairwell Europol, Eurojust), and all the thinking intellectuals -scientists, artists, historians, sociologists- will collectively slit their throats with their polling cards when they wake up to Griffin's hideous half-alive mug standing outside No10 on the morning of May 7th.
Just what you need in a time of global uncertainty!
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Oh I don't know UW: later I am going to start researching my family tree: I am hoping for french or spanish ancestry ideally: but anywhere nice and warm and civilised will do. And a generous package for repatriation will be just what I need....
Rolfe
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I don't think I'd find anything. My cousin who's been doing the research has turned up a singularly parochial and insular lot. Even the ones that emigrated to Texas married each other!Rolfe.