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The nephilim

Meadmaker

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In Genesis 6, there's a discussion of the origin of the Nephilim. It says that the sons of heaven bred with the daughters of men to produce the race of giants known as the Nephilim.

(This is from memory. My apologies if I make a mistake on this. I'll try to correct it when I have a bibile in front of me. Whatever it says, it's weird.)

I'm curious if anyone has ever confronted a literalist with this infofmation, and what their reaction has been. We're used to discussing the young Earth, and Noah's flood, and various minor historical inaccuracies. The fundies have their pat answers for all of those things, but the Nephilim strikes me as one that would give them fits. It asserts that spiritual beings had sex with human females and ended up producing real, presumably human, offspring. I would just love to see a typical literalist response to questions about them.
 
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
 
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
 
Meadmaker said:
In Genesis 6, there's a discussion of the origin of the Nephilim. It says that the sons of heaven bred with the daughters of men to produce the race of giants known as the Nephilim.

(This is from memory. My apologies if I make a mistake on this. I'll try to correct it when I have a bibile in front of me. Whatever it says, it's weird.)

I'm curious if anyone has ever confronted a literalist with this infofmation, and what their reaction has been. We're used to discussing the young Earth, and Noah's flood, and various minor historical inaccuracies. The fundies have their pat answers for all of those things, but the Nephilim strikes me as one that would give them fits. It asserts that spiritual beings had sex with human females and ended up producing real, presumably human, offspring. I would just love to see a typical literalist response to questions about them.
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I know the answer i got from when i was a JW.

The angels' took on earthly bodies and got busy with earthly women.

The one things that stuck me about this comment was:
a) another species i.e angels found a completely different beings attractive, kinda like getting turned on and wanting sex with say...gas?
b) why would size have anything to do with angels, if that is the only trait passed on that would suggest angels were psychially large? yet but the bible definition they are spiritual beings.


but i guess that the problem when you try and prove stories
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
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Dustin, you have said elsewhere that you accept evolution. What do you call this?
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
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I tried responding in your "Proof" thread but accidently erased it before I replied. I was going to try again today but considering the quote above...I won't bother.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
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Sure. Why not? Makes as much sense as anything else you've said.
 
The term "Sons of God" did not infer 'angels' when it was written. It most likely meant something like "Heroes from the old days".

The term came to reference angels after Xian Angelology took hold. Then there was a search through the OT to prove the 'fallen angels' theory.

Don't forget angels aren't sexual beings. Their genetalia has been spackled over.
 
KingMerv00 said:
I tried responding in your "Proof" thread but accidently erased it before I replied. I was going to try again today but considering the quote above...I won't bother.
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I find that a bit hard to believe. You can't repudiate my proof of God therefore you lie and makeup having responded but erasing it. Now you're making up more excuses for having not responded to it? Please...
 
Another interesting point is that, according to the bible, the Nephilim existed before and after the flood (see Numbers 13:33 for an example of post-flood Nephilim).

How did they survive the flood? I thought only those on the ark were spared.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
Probably a race of giants did exist several thousand years ago. Most likely their bones were made of a quickly degrading material that does not fossilize and thus there is no evidence they ever existed.
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I can't tell if this is a joke or not. Please start using smiley faces.

If it is a joke: "Heh heh...giants....heh heh"

If it is not a joke: Please submit a urine sample to the site administrator.
 
prewitt81 said:
Another interesting point is that, according to the bible, the Nephilim existed before and after the flood (see Numbers 13:33 for an example of post-flood Nephilim).

How did they survive the flood? I thought only those on the ark were spared.
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If they stood on their tip-toes, they could still breathe.
 
I'm simply saying that we rely on Fossils too much to tell us about ancient times. It's more than possible that a race of giant beings existed but who's bones were made out of quickly degrading material that could not fossilize and so we have no signs of them. There have been tales of Giants from all societies and it's no surprise. The Nephilim probably did exist.
 
We have no idea if some creatures existed in ancient or prehistoric times who never fossilized for one reaosn or another. We should never concluded that something NEVER existed simply because there is no evidence it ever existed. Do you disagree with that?
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
We have no idea if some creatures existed in ancient or prehistoric times who never fossilized for one reaosn or another. We should never concluded that something NEVER existed simply because there is no evidence it ever existed. Do you disagree with that?
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Yes.
 
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