The Nautilus case

[novaphile]

Is murdering a woman really a special case of homicide, in Danish law?

I'd like to see it a special case in all law.

i.e. if a man murders a woman, the penalty is three life sentences, to be served consecutively, with parole after 99 years.

And gets his name changed officially to: 'piss-weak, pathetic example of a human being' in perpetuity.

 

[theprestige]

I'd like to see it a special case in all law.

i.e. if a man murders a woman, the penalty is three life sentences, to be served consecutively, with parole after 99 years.

And gets his name changed officially to: 'piss-weak, pathetic example of a human being' in perpetuity.

Interesting. Do you have any ideas on why Danes generally don't seem to share this opinion, that women are significantly more important and valuable than men?

 

[The Atheist]

Good way to miss the point. Well played.

I'd be perfectly happy to see male murders female a special circumstance and harsher penalties. Also, anyone murdering a child.

 

[novaphile]

Interesting. Do you have any ideas on why Danes generally don't seem to share this opinion, that women are significantly more important and valuable than men?

You must be fundamentally broken, if that is what you take away from my statement.

How about, instead, interpreting it as: "bullies are scum that need to be locked away for ever" ?

If people my size like to whale on each other in a ring or any other form of combat, that's fine.

(Something I enjoyed myself.)

Picking on smaller, weaker, more vulnerable people? That's pathetic.

 

[theprestige]

You must be fundamentally broken, if that is what you take away from my statement.

How about, instead, interpreting it as: "bullies are scum that need to be locked away for ever" ?

If people my size like to whale on each other in a ring or any other form of combat, that's fine.

(Something I enjoyed myself.)

Picking on smaller, weaker, more vulnerable people? That's pathetic.

My bad. I thought you were proposing extra punishments for crimes against women, not a weight class system for criminal justice.

 

[Blue Mountain]

If people my size like to whale on each other in a ring or any other form of combat, that's fine.

(Something I enjoyed myself.)

Picking on smaller, weaker, more vulnerable people? That's pathetic.

Just how big are you?

 

[novaphile]

Just how big are you?

Not very, by modern standards.

I think I'm down to six foot (185cm) (from a previous high of six one and a half )

(240 pounds/108 kg)

At my peak I was 85 kg, so if you're thinking of a tubby old man, you've got the picture.

 

[Puppycow]

I was curious whether men who kill women do get harsher sentences. Apparently the opposite has been true, at least heretofore.

Research indicates that men who kill their female partners often receive shorter sentences on average than women who kill their male partners. While men generally receive harsher sentences for crimes overall, domestic homicides are a notable exception, primarily due to the context of the crimes. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Studies on this trend highlight several key factors:

• Self-Defense vs. Intimate Partner Violence: Statistics compiled by the ACLU show that women who kill their male partners often do so after enduring prolonged abuse, with most acting in self-defense. Despite this, women generally face longer average prison terms (often around 15 years) compared to men who kill their female partners (often between 2 to 6 years). [1, 2]
• Systemic Biases: Analyses of judicial remarks and sentencing outcomes—such as research by Murdoch University—suggest that courts may sometimes apply unconscious biases, viewing male offenders' community ties or work achievements more favorably, while categorizing women who commit murder as acting against societal norms. [1]

While I do generally agree that people who murder those smaller/weaker than themselves (especially children) should receive harsher sentences in principle, I think that a general rule that only applies to men who murder women is too crude of a line to draw. Hell, there was a case of a man who was held captive by his stepmother since he was a child. I'd rather there just be a laundry list of "aggravating factors" and "mitigating factors" which could either increase or decrease the severity of the sentence.

 

[jeremyp]

I'd like to see it a special case in all law.

i.e. if a man murders a woman, the penalty is three life sentences, to be served consecutively, with parole after 99 years.

And gets his name changed officially to: 'piss-weak, pathetic example of a human being' in perpetuity.

No. Broad brush generalisations like that are stupid. Many men are physically stronger than many women but not all combinations of a male and a female work out that way. And why concentrate on physical strength? In not all cases of domestic abuse is it the man abusing the woman. If the law encounters a case where it is the other way around, no matter how rare, it has to be flexible enough to sentence appropriately.

 

[novaphile]

No. Broad brush generalisations like that are stupid. Many men are physically stronger than many women but not all combinations of a male and a female work out that way. And why concentrate on physical strength? In not all cases of domestic abuse is it the man abusing the woman. If the law encounters a case where it is the other way around, no matter how rare, it has to be flexible enough to sentence appropriately.

Remember, we're talking about men murdering women here...