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The Name Jesus = 666?

jimlintott said:

Maybe its time to stop playing with numbers and start learning about them. Hint: to reduce the percentage of matches by a factor of two would require half as many matches.
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No, you're mistaken, because if all 50 names were but a variable of Jesus, then what would the percentage be?

Also, let's not forget that Muhammad was but another one of those Zoroastrian "remnants," and is no doubt equivocal with Jesus (as a prophet) and, taking that into account, plus the notion of London being the headquarters of the Reformation, I would suggest were getting it down to about .625%.

I really, really doubt that Lucifer is one of the top 1000 names in the U.S. Male or female.
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No, according his calculations it's not, however, Lucifer certainly can be referred to as a type of anti-Christ now can't he?
 
Oh yeah, you might want to reduce the percentage even more than that, because half the names aren't even using 9 as the (prime) multiplier. Of course is that to suggest these are the only names which can be factored into the number 666? Now that is impressive! Or, am I mistaken here? ...
 
Iacchus said:
Wait a second. Are we talking about the whole Book of Revelation here? Or, just the number 666? Because something tells me we won't be able to discuss it much pass a possible association to an emperor's name. Hate to tell you this, but there are just too many other things involved. ;)
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Iachuss, the kabbalah,quaballah applies to all of the hebrai literature associated with the bible. Since jesus and the apostles were jewish it would apply to them, it is something that theyw ere well versed in.

The whole judaic bible, the whole thing. And it is not the emperor's name it is the whole roman state that is associated with the antichrsit, Just like the tenheaded beast is the 'children of Israel'. The ten tribes are a very strong association for the jewsih mystery tradition.
 
While I noticed you included Joshua, for I believe that was another name for Jesus. If so, that reduces it to 1.25% doesn't it? Or, how would you figure that?
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I included Joshua because it was on the list and happened to meet your test. Allowing Jesus to have two names double’s his chance of meeting your numerical criteria at least once, but that’s not what happened.

This is a very poor simplification and you shouldn’t use it, but one could back-o-the-envelope say that if any random English name was given to a baby, it has a 2.5% chance of meeting your criteria. If the person has two names, then that is a 0.0625% chance they’ll both meet your test.

Remember though, as I understand it, Jesus and Joshua were quite popular names. Joshua is #3 in the US for boys today; that hurts your case.

It is unexpected that the both names would meet the same test, but Jesus does have many titles. This site lists 144 of them:

http://biblia.com/jesusbible/isaiah6b.htm

I’m not typing all those in :), the other list was just a cut and paste from a government web site.

Of course I noticed you didn't have Lucifer either?
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As Jim keenly observed, it seems not to be one of the top 1000 names in the US…. But Nick is there :) (again Satan, or the minor demons with which he is sometimes equated, has 333 names, according to another site, http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/satanism/demonlist.tn).

It kills me to add to this sort of playing with numbers to find significance, but, objectively, that is what you’d get. To be clear, I’m not sympathetic with your case here, Iacchus. It’s way too easy to find meaning where there is none. Seems to me to be a uniquely human addiction, and I share it with you, in a way, in my love of playing with numbers, but that’s where I end it and where I think it should reasonably end.

Look at it this way; there are a number of ways you could do this. If we give each letter a single digit (so a = 1, b = 2, …. i = 10 = 1+0 = 1, and k = 11 = 1+1 = 2, and so on), we get a more exclusive list:

1. 666 = sum( dig ( adeline ) ) * 18
2. 666 = sum( dig ( adriel ) ) * 18
3. 666 = sum( dig ( ahmad ) ) * 18
4. 666 = sum( dig ( aisha ) ) * 18
5. 666 = sum( dig ( aydan ) ) * 18
6. 666 = sum( dig ( geoffrey ) ) * 9
7. 666 = sum( dig ( george ) ) * 9
8. 666 = sum( dig ( georgia ) ) * 9
9. 666 = sum( dig ( kyree ) ) * 9
10. 666 = sum( dig ( muhammad ) ) * 18
11. 666 = sum( dig ( myles ) ) * 18
12. 666 = sum( dig ( nadia ) ) * 18
13. 666 = sum( dig ( nathanael ) ) * 18
14. 666 = sum( dig ( noel ) ) * 18
15. 666 = sum( dig ( nya ) ) * 18
16. 666 = sum( dig ( sage ) ) * 18
17. 666 = sum( dig ( sage ) ) * 18
18. 666 = sum( dig ( samara ) ) * 18
19. 666 = sum( dig ( samuel ) ) * 18
20. 666 = sum( dig ( savannah ) ) * 18
21. 666 = sum( dig ( scarlett ) ) * 18
22. 666 = sum( dig ( susan ) ) * 18
23. 666 = sum( dig ( tatiana ) ) * 18
24. 666 = sum( dig ( wayne ) ) * 18

That’s 24 out of 2000 (1.2%). No name of Jesus here.

Doh! You’re going to notice Muhammad is in both lists, aren’t you :)?

Oh yeah, you might want to reduce the percentage even more than that, because half the names aren't even using 9 as the (prime) multiplier. Of course is that to suggest these are the only names which can be factored into the number 666? Now that is impressive! Or, am I mistaken here? ...
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Can you see though why some here would be worried that, for example, if it added to the meaning you found in these numbers, you would instead say that 18 is equivalent to 9 as 1 + 8 = 9, and want to use the entire list?
 
Dancing David said:

Iachuss, the kabbalah,quaballah applies to all of the hebrai literature associated with the bible. Since jesus and the apostles were jewish it would apply to them, it is something that theyw ere well versed in.

The whole judaic bible, the whole thing. And it is not the emperor's name it is the whole roman state that is associated with the antichrsit, Just like the tenheaded beast is the 'children of Israel'. The ten tribes are a very strong association for the jewsih mystery tradition.
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As much as I understand what you're trying to say here, and I'm still not sure? did you know that the Center of the World is everywhere?
 
Oh, they have to be multiplied by 9 in order to qualify. I guess the number 9 is a magical Jesus coefficient. (You may want to use the term coefficient rather than prime multiplier because prime has its own meaning in the world of numbers.)

What if a = 9, b = 18, c = 27 and so on? Does it still work given the commutative property of multiplication?
 
Scot C. Trypal said:

Look at it this way; there are a number of ways you could do this. If we give each letter a single digit (so a = 1, b = 2, …. i = 10 = 1+0 = 1, and k = 11 = 1+1 = 2, and so on), we get a more exclusive list:
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What are you adding an additional step here or what? According to Occam that's a no no! ... ;)
 
Regarding the use of 9, couldn’t this be used as an example of looking for evidence after choosing a conclusion?

Sloppy back-o-the-envelope calculation again but:

Average length of a US name = 5.946 characters.

Average numerical value of the letters = 13.5.

5.946 * 13.5 = 80.27

666 / 80.27 = 8.3

Why nine? Well, the factors of 666 are 2 3 3 and 37. 3*3=9 is the closest to 8.3. 9 is the most likely route by the choice of 666, method, and English names. Only 10% score less than 7, so 2*3=6 is near out and 9 is best.

You could either go for that, or look for something else. You, Iacchus, explained it by saying “the number 9 is Artemis' number…and is also the moon's "death number."”

What are you adding an additional step here or what? According to Occam that's a no no!
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It’s not much of a complication, though I’ll grant you it is one, and the two methods are both used in numerology, right?

On the razor, what specifically are the two competing hypothesis, where yours is the simpler, but both explain the facts? Would the fact be that you can manipulate names to reach the number 666, and Jesus will be one of those names?

If that 2nd list had “Jesus” and “Lucifer” in it and not the 1st list, would you be using the 2nd method instead? This is the main problem I see in looking for meaning in such numerical methods; you can take many paths but once you find something that peaks your interest it’s too easy think the one path was special. You could alter the numerical method, you could choose another language, alternate numerical values for the alphabet, and so on.

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More "childish" nonsense from our friend Dennis- specifically, his "book":

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And for a time I wondered if 666 applied specifically to Roy Masters (an evangelical preacher in OR - P) or not—even more so with Martin Luther. And though he was responsible for the Reformation, I believe its negative connotation applied more to what came afterwards. (Indeed, when Swedenborg describes Martin Luther in The True Christian Religion [number 796], it sounds very much like Roy Masters.) I wondered about this for at least two years, before receiving my answer in January 1993—on Martin Luther King's birthday! And when substituting a chapter for a month, and verse for a day in Revelation 13:18 (see chapter 6), his birthday—which was observed on January 18th—corresponds to chapter "13, verse 18": where the number 666 is revealed! Thus it seems this number is all inclusive of the Reformation. And while I'm not bad-mouthing Martin Luther King, it's apparent that he corresponds to the same church; and indeed, can be portrayed as a "modern reformist"—even a second Martin Luther.
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Scot C. Trypal said:

Regarding the use of 9, couldn’t this be used as an example of looking for evidence after choosing a conclusion?
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No, because I hadn't even considered it until someone else brought it to my attention. Also, it only corroborates what I already know about the Reformation and the number 666 (according to certain reference books). So in that respect I didn't have to lift a finger to do anything.
 
I strongly protest all of the 6 on this thread:

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Casey&Andy--with permission

--J.D.
 
Doctor X said:

I strongly protest all of the 6 on this thread:
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However, I notice that your post count is up to 999. Hmm, I wonder what that could mean? ;)


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Iacchus said:
However, I notice that your post count is up to 999. Hmm ... I wonder what that could mean? ;)


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He is Jesus standing on his head?

Edited to say: Hey, I notice this this is my 69th post, and I mentioned Jesus being inverted - does that mean something?
 
Piscivore said:

He is Jesus standing on his head?

Edited to say: Hey, I notice this this is my 69th post, and I mentioned Jesus being inverted - does that mean something?
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And what was that song by Jimi Hendrix? When Six becomes Nine?
 
Piscivore said:

And what was that song by Bryan Adams? Summer of Sixty-Nine?
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And when speaking of the dream of Pharaoh, Joseph (the 11th son) said: "And that the dream was doubled twice, it is because the thing is established by God, and it will shortly come to pass." ~ Genesis 41:32
 
Ezra 2:1,13
1 Now these are the children of the province that went up out of the captivity, of those which had been carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried away unto Babylon, and came again unto Jerusalem and Judah, every one unto his city;
13 The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six.
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Whee!
 
And what was that Mr. Piscivore or, shall I say "Fish-eater?" Might it have something to do with Pisces, the 12th sign? Isn't it often portrayed as two fish, in the "69" configuration?
 
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