The mysterious "high level freemasons"

You are of course quite right, but just one small thing I have to point out before Bob replies - as I have stated else where, the "Church of Lucifer" doesn't worship any supernatural being per say but are simply following the whole thelma philosophy. However, it still demonstrates that - contrary to what OldBob thinks, people do freely and publicly associate themselves with Lucifer :)


Thanks for the correction. I should have read the CoL site more closely myself and just gone with the Satanists.


Cheers,

Dave
 
One question for the Mason's on this thread. What does the treasurer invest the money collected in? Hedge funds, Gold? Or is there a Mason special bank creating money at will. Also are the temples rate and tax free like churches and can one get a discount on goats?(just kidding)
 
One question for the Mason's on this thread. What does the treasurer invest the money collected in? Hedge funds, Gold? Or is there a Mason special bank creating money at will. Also are the temples rate and tax free like churches and can one get a discount on goats?(just kidding)

Well, Bob, siince you have previously claimed on this and other threads that you know all about the Masons, have read their secrets, and you are now asking questions about them, that would mean that one of you is a liar.

Which is it? In simple only sylable terms (so even you understand tha anglish)

"when did you lie - then or now?"

And, "just kidding?". Ha! You are so innocent of humour, you would not even know kidding from Kidman.

Norm
 
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I wanted to see what rot you would come up with Norm. Reading your post, your a bit rattled old mate time for a dose of brotherly love.
 
Yes Old Bob. You are obviously on to him. Keep pressing him and he'll admit everything soon.
 
One question for the Mason's on this thread. What does the treasurer invest the money collected in? Hedge funds, Gold? Or is there a Mason special bank creating money at will. Also are the temples rate and tax free like churches and can one get a discount on goats?(just kidding)

Neither. Most lodges don't have enough money to invest in hedge funds, and it would be extremely stupid to invest in gold (gold is a woo-woo thing). After all the building's bills are paid for and half of incoming money is given to charity, my particular lodge has about $15,000 left this year. All of it is sitting in a money market, as the majority is terrified of risking even a cent after the recent few months (personally I think its time to buy, buy, buy - but older guys are risk averse).

The only goat you'll find in a temple are in your mind. Do you have a fetish thing for goats, Bob?
 
I wanted to see what rot you would come up with Norm. Reading your post, your a bit rattled old mate time for a dose of brotherly love.


eeewwww, Bob don't be gross - and on a Public Board too!, Sorry "old mate" I'm not that type.

Norm
 
eeewwww, Bob don't be gross - and on a Public Board too!, Sorry "old mate" I'm not that type.

Norm

Bob seems to like to project his fantasies onto everyone else. He has a obsession with goats (and no Bob, I don't want to know why) and seems to really get into inferring everyone is a homosexual.

Bob - look, its 2008. Its OK for you to be gay. Times have changed. However, your whole "goat" thing is still illegal in most civilized countries. I would not advertise you pursue your "interests" on that one.
 
Good keep your back to the wall Norm. It's not the petty cash xmas fund I was asking about. Freemasonry is word wide, owning institutions and of course the Temples, the question is for the benefit of non masons. Does the cult pay rates and taxes and does each lodge have a ABN number or do we as people support the shenanigans. O and the goat bit for L.in D. you can't know your nick name. (Goat Riders) yes I know it's crude. But if you mess with the symbols and set up the lay out of Washington with the never ending five point star, pentagon centers and all that good stuff what do you expect.
 
Good keep your back to the wall Norm. It's not the petty cash xmas fund I was asking about. Freemasonry is word wide, owning institutions and of course the Temples, the question is for the benefit of non masons. Does the cult pay rates and taxes and does each lodge have a ABN number or do we as people support the shenanigans. O and the goat bit for L.in D. you can't know your nick name. (Goat Riders) yes I know it's crude. But if you mess with the symbols and set up the lay out of Washington with the never ending five point star, pentagon centers and all that good stuff what do you expect.

As freemasonry is not a cult I am not sure whether cults pay taxes. I do know that freemasonry, being a fraternity run for charitable purposes which is not-for-profit, is tax exempt. Much like the Elk's Club, the Rotary, or your local college sorority. Perhaps you do not like to support charity work, but most people do.

And you have way to many delusions about how much money freemasonry has. My entire lodge's budget for the year is about $5,000. We have $15,000 in non-building assets, and the lodge itself is worth about $130,000.00. Many lodges don't even own their own buildings, and I've seen lodge budgets for less than $1,000 a year before.

As for your obsession compulsive disorder with goats - hey man, whatever gets your juices flowing. I think its a bit disgusting and frankly as a animal rights person it harms the animal, but as long as you keep it to just your personal fantasies whatever works for you. Just stop fantasizing about it on this board.

Finally, Masons did not "set up" anything in Washington. The supposed "5 pointed star" is missing an entire leg when you look at the actual map, and nothing else exists that suggests masonic influence. What you have is a whole bunch of streets converging at angles in a very developed city, so you can make up lots of random symbols if you want to. They don't really exist.
 
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...and I've seen lodge budgets for less than $1,000 a year before.

Probably lodges like the one in the town I grew up in, the one my grandfather had belonged too. I think the entire lodge was just a bunch of poor farmers with really low overhead. These weren't exactly people that were plotting world domination...just a bunch of people who liked hanging out; and getting away from the wife every other Thursday.

No offence to any Freemasons.
 
Probably lodges like the one in the town I grew up in, the one my grandfather had belonged too. I think the entire lodge was just a bunch of poor farmers with really low overhead. These weren't exactly people that were plotting world domination...just a bunch of people who liked hanging out; and getting away from the wife every other Thursday.

No offence to any Freemasons.

Yep, sounds exactly like the type of lodge I am referring to. Usually small, rural, where the members meet in a building owned by another member.

Of course, I am often surprised by the amount of intellectual brilliance and insight shown by brothers who appear outside of the lodge to be very "every-day" folkish. It has really taught me the importance of not judging a book by its cover. I have had the most enlightening and intellectually stimulating conversations about masonic philosophy with very large farmers in overalls that were masons - far more than I've had with masons that have PhD's in philosophy or work for investment banks.
 
Yep, sounds exactly like the type of lodge I am referring to. Usually small, rural, where the members meet in a building owned by another member.

Of course, I am often surprised by the amount of intellectual brilliance and insight shown by brothers who appear outside of the lodge to be very "every-day" folkish. It has really taught me the importance of not judging a book by its cover. I have had the most enlightening and intellectually stimulating conversations about masonic philosophy with very large farmers in overalls that were masons - far more than I've had with masons that have PhD's in philosophy or work for investment banks.
Don't get me wrong. I have a high opinion of those members, and their families; often I learned of people that were widows of former members. I was hated in my former town I grew up in. I had long hair, and was notorious for contradicting the social norms of my home town.

It was people from the lodge who were actually nice to me, and widows of former members who were nice to me. They weren't the only ones, but of any one group they were the ones that didn't look down on me. So while I might talk about them as "poor farmers", these were the type of people that still understood the value of picking up a book in their spare time and learning. I may be going off to grad school, but education can be attained by just learning.
 
Don't get me wrong. I have a high opinion of those members, and their families; often I learned of people that were widows of former members. I was hated in my former town I grew up in. I had long hair, and was notorious for contradicting the social norms of my home town.

It was people from the lodge who were actually nice to me, and widows of former members who were nice to me. They weren't the only ones, but of any one group they were the ones that didn't look down on me. So while I might talk about them as "poor farmers", these were the type of people that still understood the value of picking up a book in their spare time and learning. I may be going off to grad school, but education can be attained by just learning.

Reading my post and your reply, I think I might have accidentally insinuated that you somehow were judging incorrectly - sorry, that was not my intention. It was just a random musing point about myself separately from what you had said. Of course I agree with you that the masons are quite incapable of ruling the world - we can't even agree on what type of coffee to brew after the meetings :) But I am glad to see your experience with the lodge members was positive - that is the way it should be.
 
Reading my post and your reply, I think I might have accidentally insinuated that you somehow were judging incorrectly - sorry, that was not my intention. It was just a random musing point about myself separately from what you had said. Of course I agree with you that the masons are quite incapable of ruling the world - we can't even agree on what type of coffee to brew after the meetings :) But I am glad to see your experience with the lodge members was positive - that is the way it should be.
Oh, no I didn't take your reply as anything bad. I was actually correcting my earlier statement so that it didn't downplay people. My overall point is that from my experience Masons are just your normal everyday people, regardless of their position in life. I think Old Bob is fixated on the notion that all Masons are rich and powerful, or that there is a upper class within Freemasonry. Ignoring the fact that a Millionare and his gardner can both be Masons, and within the lodge they are completely equal. The CT'ists ignore the basic ideal that every fraternity I have encountered is based on, the Masons more than the college fraternity.

These are not people I am really worried about. If any conspiracy is taking place within Freemasonry, it is a very public conspiracy to help the larger community through charitable works.
 

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