The mysterious "high level freemasons"

[Chaos]

Some people have done some pretty impressive things with the numbers 9 and 11, they're batsh!t insane, but creative I suppose.

Yup.

Apparently, the combination of high creativity and a tenuous grasp of reality is a prime recipe for becoming an original CTer (as opposed to the usual copy-and-paste nutters).

 

[LightinDarkness]

I know little about The Mormons except they worship God, they may copy some Mason rituals but that would be it.

Its VERY clear you know very little about...well...everything you've posted about so far. I love the CT logic though - Joseph Smith copied vast portions of masonic ritual for Mormon temple services, and somehow Mormons worship God and masons worship "Lucifer"? Inconsistent much?

Masons worship Lucifer.

Can we get something clear here. No one worships Lucifer. No one. Lucifer is not a divine entity. The word appears one time in the old testament and is most likely a reference to a regional King.

I have a old book called "The Dissipation of Darkness" when I find it again will be better armed as it's full of good stuff on Hiram and Levy and all the info a mason doesn't want to hear.

Right. Because we ALL know that books, particularly books written with an agenda, are 100% truth. Perhaps you should read books based on actual research instead of fables?

Years ago in western Victoria a couple of the locals sneaked a smelly mad wild billy goat in the mason hallow room the day before a major meeting, they weren't happy to open the door and be met by billy urinating and whatever. Just had to laugh.

Good to hear you get a laugh out of destroying other peoples property. Its so funny to harass and harm people based on a belief misguided fairy tales that have no proof!

 

[SimonD]

11 - The age you act.
11 - The IQ you display.
11 - The number of kangaroos loose in your top paddock.

I think you're onto something. Keep looking. Stop posting. You're a disgrace to my state and my country.

Akhenaten, Old Bob is from Queensland, so let me say it.

Old Bob you are a disgrace to my state and my country

 

[fromdownunder]

Akhenaten, Old Bob is from Queensland [snip]

...and he ate too many of Flo's pumpkin scones.

Norm

 

[Akhenaten]

Another Mason ("my state, my country?") how about sharing. What do you keep in the apron pockets.?

As usual, the errors in your post begin with the very first word.

5.22 million people are entitled to call Victoria "my state".

20.34 million people are entitled to call Australia "my country".

Are they all Freemasons, ya drongo?


I am ineligible to join the Freemasons, since I'm an atheist and can't acknowledge a supreme being, great architect or whatever. Nevertheless, I find your apparent glee at the wanton vandalism of these peoples' property to be disgusting and childish.

As far as I know, the aprons worn during Freemason ceremonies are symbolic rather than practical, and don't have pockets. I imagine real stone-working masons have chisels and the like in theirs. Does this help?

My own workshop apron has pocketses. You can have three guesses at what's in them if you like, Smeabob.



PS I've been kindly reminded by SimonD that you're actually from Queensland, which means that at a state level, you're only an embarrasment to 4.28 million people. I apologise for my earlier mistake.

 

[gtc]

He's also an embarassment to those of us who used to live in Queensland.

 

[LightinDarkness]

As far as I know, the aprons worn during Freemason ceremonies are symbolic rather than practical, and don't have pockets. I imagine real stone-working masons have chisels and the like in theirs. Does this help?

Quite right...of course, if you don't believe the masons are on a path of world domination, you do know that must mean you're a mason. Even if your an atheist (you wouldn't have happened to have been abducted by the Grand Lodge of France and initiated would you? Atheists are allowed by the GLoF ).

 

[Akhenaten]

Quite right...of course, if you don't believe the masons are on a path of world domination, you do know that must mean you're a mason. Even if your an atheist (you wouldn't have happened to have been abducted by the Grand Lodge of France and initiated would you? Atheists are allowed by the GLoF ).

Le shhh! Vous will revealez mon secret! N'allowez-pas le chat dehors le bag!


My apologies to real French-speaking folks.

 

[Old Bob]

Akhenaten, did those nasty old Mason boys black ball you? They do that to those who's light is just not bright enough. And you may be happy to know I grew up in NE Vic. That's where I learnt some of the good stuff. And I have been asked to join the Masons but declined, sooner hunt furry creatures. And Norm don't make fun of a good woman, Flo has my respect.

 

[Akhenaten]

Akhenaten, did those nasty old Mason boys black ball you? They do that to those who's light is just not bright enough.

I am Nepherkheperure Waenre and I stand in the full light of the Aten. At one time I commanded armies of masons, who only did black balling when they were working with obsidian.

And you may be happy to know I grew up in NE Vic.

I'd be happy if you just grew up.

That's where I learnt some of the good stuff.

Which you're obviously keeping to yourself while you post drivel here.

And I have been asked to join the Masons but declined, sooner hunt furry creatures.

The two, of course, being mutually exclusive. Is nonus sequiterus one of the furry creatures that you hunt?

And Norm don't make fun of a good woman, Flo has my respect.

How unfortunate for Lady Flo. With friends like you and all . . .

 

[fromdownunder]

And Norm don't make fun of a good woman, Flo has my respect.

Bob, it was not Flo that I was making fun of. And I am sorry to hear that you come from Victoria originally. Oh well, at least when you moved to Queensland you increased the average IQ of both states.

Norm

 

[LightinDarkness]

And I have been asked to join the Masons but declined,

I must hand it to the founders of freemasonry - they were wise beyond their years to ensure that one of the foundations of the order is that no one is ever invited.

I have noticed over the years that everyone who has a problem with freemasonry always claims to have been invited. Always. Without fail. And about 80% of the time, they also always claim to have some male relative who is the elusive 33rd degree.

Is it the desire to feel validated that makes people make this stuff up? Is it the internal need to belong fighting with the anti-mason's irrational belief system that causes such claims? One thing is for sure: if you claim you've been invited to join then you are a liar.

 

[Glite]

"Can we get something clear here. No one worships Lucifer. No one. Lucifer is not a divine entity. The word appears one time in the old testament and is most likely a reference to a regional King."

I've read that "lucifer" is the latin for the "morning star", a term which some christians use to describe Jesus. In fact I believe there is a passage where Jesus refers to himself as Lucifer.

"the aprons worn during Freemason ceremonies are symbolic rather than practical, and don't have pockets."

Mine has a pocket on the back. I keep gum or mints in it.

(me can't remember how to quote)

 

[Chaos]

"Can we get something clear here. No one worships Lucifer. No one. Lucifer is not a divine entity. The word appears one time in the old testament and is most likely a reference to a regional King."

I've read that "lucifer" is the latin for the "morning star", a term which some christians use to describe Jesus. In fact I believe there is a passage where Jesus refers to himself as Lucifer.

"the aprons worn during Freemason ceremonies are symbolic rather than practical, and don't have pockets."

Mine has a pocket on the back. I keep gum or mints in it.

(me can't remember how to quote)

FWIW, "lucifer" means "lightbringer", and indeed refers to the Morning Star.

This one, that is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus

Not this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_star_(weapon)

 

[Old Bob]

I must hand it to the founders of freemasonry - they were wise beyond their years to ensure that one of the foundations of the order is that no one is ever invited.

I have noticed over the years that everyone who has a problem with freemasonry always claims to have been invited. Always. Without fail. And about 80% of the time, they also always claim to have some male relative who is the elusive 33rd degree.

Is it the desire to feel validated that makes people make this stuff up? Is it the internal need to belong fighting with the anti-mason's irrational belief system that causes such claims? One thing is for sure: if you claim you've been invited to join then you are a liar.

L.In D. I take umbrage at the liar bit. A Master lodge member asked me to join. This man came to our home often, so don't shoot your mouth off. "Join the lodge, it will be a big help for you, I have known you long enough" (reply) "Thanks but no thanks not enough time" (1970) That's how I remember the invite. NObody would admit worship of Lucifer, how about Satan? is he God Of All Things? Is the saying " get on your goat" a mason thing.

 

[Glite]

The God of Freemasonry, is whatever Supreme Being you happen to believe in.

There is no goat, although, if thats your thing............I'm not here to judge.

In fairness to Old Bob, just because the rule is to not solicit, that does not mean that all Masons follow the rule.

 

[LightinDarkness]

L.In D. I take umbrage at the liar bit. A Master lodge member asked me to join. This man came to our home often, so don't shoot your mouth off. "Join the lodge, it will be a big help for you, I have known you long enough" (reply) "Thanks but no thanks not enough time" (1970) That's how I remember the invite. NObody would admit worship of Lucifer, how about Satan? is he God Of All Things? Is the saying " get on your goat" a mason thing.

1) There is no such thing as a "Master lodge member."
2) Again, it is hilarious to observe that EVERYONE seems to have been "invited" to a organization which prides itself on inviting no one.
3) Actually, some people do worship satan. They are small cults, but they do exist. The Church of Satan does not though, its more of a philosophy devoted to following your own will. No person who worships satan can be a freemason, because satan is by definition not a Supreme Being.
4) Anything having to do with goats is something made up by anti-masons and the Taxil hoax. Masons occasionally use it as a joke because it is, quite frankly, absurd.

 

[dudalb]

Jews in space?

I always regretted that Mel Brooks made "Spaceballs" instead of "Jews In Space".

 

[Akhenaten]

L.In D. I take umbrage at the liar bit.

There's a simple solution to that.

A Master lodge member asked me to join.

Are you able to explain what a Master lodge member is?

This man came to our home often, so don't shoot your mouth off.

PKB, mate, and a really obvious one at that.

"Join the lodge, it will be a big help for you, I have known you long enough" (reply) "Thanks but no thanks not enough time" (1970) That's how I remember the invite.

What you're claiming to remember is nothing more than being given some advice, and giving one of your typically well thought-out responses.

The bit I've bolded is your real problem though. Consider your credibility here, add 38 years and see if you can figure out the value of your claim.

NObody would admit worship of Lucifer, how about Satan? is he God Of All Things?

You're frothing mate. Do you have your meds handy?

Do you really think there aren't any openly practicing Lucifer- or Satan-worshippers? Try these:


The Church of Lucifer

The Church of Satan


Could you be wrong in your assertion?

Is the saying " get on your goat" a mason thing.

No, it's a bigot thing.

 

[LightinDarkness]

Do you really think there aren't any openly practicing Lucifer- or Satan-worshippers? Try these

You are of course quite right, but just one small thing I have to point out before Bob replies - as I have stated else where, the "Church of Lucifer" doesn't worship any supernatural being per say but are simply following the whole thelma philosophy. However, it still demonstrates that - contrary to what OldBob thinks, people do freely and publicly associate themselves with Lucifer