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The Missiles at Ground Zero

MaGZ said:
Remember, I’m just a dumb white guy. How could I be so clever as to make this stuff up.
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No I am sorry you may not be a dumb white guy in a white power group.

You just have a dumb idea on missiles and no facts to back up your idea.

I may be wrong about you, but your missile idea is wrong.

You could be the smartest person the world. But your ideas on missiles is all wrong and proven wrong by many.

Too bad your information is welcome at the web site http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=10058 of junk ideas.

So now that your missiles are proven false what do you have to say?

Why would you bring up stuff already proven false?
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
No, it's the image I wanted, but that doesn't mean you're wrong. ;) It is, essentially, a picture of the south face, but you can make out the west face, which is what I was going for.

I'm still looking for a better shot of the west face, but until then, I'll clarify my post. Thanks. :)
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You are right. You can see the west face on the left side. I fixated on the south face.
 
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MaGZ said:
The witnesses came down WTC 7 after they experienced the missile explosion not the fall of any towers. Perhaps the lobby was damaged by glass blown inward from the blast floors above. Perhaps some of the exploding cars on Vesey Street caused some damage.

All of WTC 7 was evacuated around 9:44 before WTC 2 came down. The witnesses could not have be referring to the lobby after the collapse of WTC 2 or 1.
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Then is it not reasonable to assume they are in fact referring to the second tower being hit?

Is it not remotely possible that the damage they saw to WTC 7 was actually caused by this and not some missile?

So I suppose I am back to my original question. Who inside WTC 7 saw the missile hit the building they were in? You have just told me the building was occupied, i.e. it was full of people so who actually saw it?

Many people heard explosions on that day; this does not mean missiles or bombs. Equally so New York is highly populated by people, a lot who would have been looking at WTC 2 when it got hit, so how many people actually saw a missile hit WTC 7?

1?
2?
10?
100?

How many exactly?
 
stateofgrace said:
Then is it not reasonable to assume they are in fact referring to the second tower being hit?

Is it not remotely possible that the damage they saw to WTC 7 was actually caused by this and not some missile?

So I suppose I am back to my original question. Who inside WTC 7 saw the missile hit the building they were in? You have just told me the building was occupied, i.e. it was full of people so who actually saw it?

Many people heard explosions on that day; this does not mean missiles or bombs. Equally so New York is highly populated by people, a lot who would have been looking at WTC 2 when it got hit, so how many people actually saw a missile hit WTC 7?

1?
2?
10?
100?

How many exactly?
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You are suggesting they found the lobby gone because of debris from the crash of the second flight into WTC 2. This is unlikely since the angle of impact into WTC 2 led parts of the plane flying toward the northeast and not north toward WTC 7.
 
Still no proof of missiles. When will we have it or are you still working on the jews did the anthrax junk?
 
MaGZ said:
You are suggesting they found the lobby gone because of debris from the crash of the second flight into WTC 2. This is unlikely since the angle of impact into WTC 2 led parts of the plane flying toward the northeast and not north toward WTC 7.
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I am suggesting nothing I am asking you questions based on your theory. A theory that quite frankly is ridiculous.

I am asking you to prove without any doubt that a missile was fired at WTC 7. Since I have never ever heard anything so stupid I am dammed if I am going to waste my time chasing down precise times and precise angles of anything.

You have made an assertion that somebody fired a missile over New York, at a building full of people; now prove it, plain and simple.
 
I am beginning to think that LC and other trooth groups and 911 denialites send people like MaGZ, whos theories even they think are ridiculous, here on purpose.

It all started with Christphera and his silly concrete core theory.

They're just yanking our chains folks.

I mean seriously; who in their right mind can come to the conclusion that a missile hit WTC7?
 
MaGZ said:
I will concede the point it was not a heat-seeking missile.

I saw the explosion of WTC 7 on television after 9/11.
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Are you going to concede that air-to-air missiles don't create this kind of explosion ?

The white cloud was from the missile explosion not the burning of WTC 7.
After a few minutes the white cloud disappeared.
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A white cloud the size of 7 WTC...

It took a while for the fires on the several floors caused by the missile impact to be noticed from a distance.
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And yet you claim the huge hole in 7 WTC was caused by the missile. Don't you see the contradiction ?

If you could move the view of this photo north and see a clear shot down Vesey Street (the southern face of WTC 7) you would see some smoke coming form the 14th floor. At this angel it is not visible.
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Ah. So you ARE making this up as you go, or do you have any evidence, any testimony that could indicate that there WAS fire in 7 WTC before 2 WTC collapsed ?

That's what I was hoping for. You don't even know which building is WTC7...

http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sstupidhr3.jpg
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It is difficult to tell. Does the picture show the west side of WTC 7 or the souther face? Hard to say.
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PFtt... Oh, my. I almost fell to the floor, laughing. Anyone who would have spent more than 30 seconds googling would know which side this was. Your claim of ignorance is laughable. 7 WTC is NOT damaged in that picture. Therefore your missile theory is WRONG.

I am convinced now we are seeing the west side of the building and part of the southern face.
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The image of WTC 7 isn’t very clear. It appears to be a bit smokey. I wonder why there are no better images of the southern face of WTC 7?
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Why are you doing this to yourself ? You can clearly see the south face of the building in the picture. No smoke. No obstruction. 7 WTC was intact at that point. Therefore your missile theory is WRONG.
 
I'm still waiting...

....for him to answer my questions about his views on Hitler, Nazis, and Jews.

The heck with his dopey theories, I'm just interested in his pathology. :)
 
MagLev, yo!

I mean, heil. Anyway.

I don't know how much of your flea-market grade claptrap you actually believe -- you may not know yourself. But let's just suppose that The Jews are behind everything nefarious in the world.

What are you going to do about it?
 
That's right...

twinstead said:
Yea, sometimes in the end that's the only reason to keep talking to somebody with ludicrous theories.
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Exactly. They want a "debate," but only on their terms, ending with either you converting to their cause or exploding in a towering rage. The theories are hardly worth answering, except to reveal the Woo's silliness.

What fascinates me is how they get to where they are, and how they survive. It's all about playing out their "life script."
 
The evidence

The evidence:

Here is the time line suggesting fighters were over NYC at the time of the second attack at WTC 2.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=otis_air_national_guard_base
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a852otistakeoff

Newark NJ air traffic controller, Bob Varcapade, confirmed the fighters were over New York City moments after the second plane crashed in to WTC 2.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14754701/

Here is the picture of the missile at 9:03.
http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

Here is the white cloud smoke from the missile impact at 9:04.
http://911studies.com/911photostudies119.htm

Here is the statement from CNN saying the white cloud appeared at 9:04.
http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/wtc6-explosion.htm

Here is the claim from witnesses that they also saw a missile when the second plane hit WTC 2.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html

Here is the NIST diagram showing the impact area of the missile explosion.
http://oceanmirage.homestead.com/files/wtc7damage.jpg

Connect the dots.
 
MaGZ said:
The evidence:

Here is the time line suggesting fighters were over NYC at the time of the second attack at WTC 2.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=otis_air_national_guard_base
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a852otistakeoff

Newark NJ air traffic controller, Bob Varcapade, confirmed the fighters were over New York City moments after the second plane crashed in to WTC 2.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14754701/

Here is the picture of the missile at 9:03.
http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

Here is the white cloud smoke from the missile impact at 9:04.
http://911studies.com/911photostudies119.htm

Here is the statement from CNN saying the white cloud appeared at 9:04.
http://www.thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/wtc6-explosion.htm

Here is the claim from witnesses that they also saw a missile when the second plane hit WTC 2.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html

Here is the NIST diagram showing the impact area of the missile explosion.
http://oceanmirage.homestead.com/files/wtc7damage.jpg

Connect the dots.
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Bird man is still looking for facts; but failed. No the jews did not do it! How much are those dues again?
 
MaGZ said:
The anthrax case has been solved.
You can read about it here.

http://www.anthraxattacks.net/
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This is your white supremacy junk again. Wrong on all counts. (are you in one of those cults of white supremacy guys?)

How much are you dues in you white supremacy group? And who told you to blame 9/11 on jews?

Still no missiles and still wrong on anthrax. You are still 100 percent wrong; perfect record.
 
Welcome back, MaGZ. We're all still waiting for you to retract your claim about which face is visible in a certain image we've been going back and forth about.

Come on. Man up to it. Show some integrity.
 
Still failing!

Sorry, MaGZ, your dots only connect in your own head.

But what I'm really interested in is not your silly theories...there are plenty of them floating around the world, about everything from the designated hitter rule to the wreck of the Carroll A. Deering. I'm more interested in your pathology...you still haven't answered my questions about what you think about Jews and how you got from the womb to becoming a cracked anti-Semite.

The other question I have is that since you're bright enough to read the English language, you should have figured out by now that this collection of readers is not going to buy or accept your silly ideas, and that we regard you as slightly below a ferret in intelligence. That should tell you that we're not going to support your grandiose cause in the first place. So the mystery to me is why do you persist in your behavior? A definition of insanity is to practice the same anti-social behaviors, hoping for different results each time.

Are you doing this to get more attention than you deserve or ever got from your family and co-workers, or do you really believe that one of us will leap up, and say, "Yes, I'm the guy who did it for the NWO! I've got the proof here, the letter from the Chief Rabbi of Moscow to the Chief Rabbi of New York, ordering him to blow up the World Trade Center!"

You're getting boring, pal. But at least you're amusing. A-Train has his Israeli commandos parachuting out of the plane just after they point it at the World Trade Center, you have the US Air Force shooting down the World Trade Center with its heat-seeking missiles. You two should get together and combine stories. How about the USAF shooting down the jet just after the Israeli commandos parachuted onto Governor's Island?
 
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