The Missiles at Ground Zero

[MaGZ]

Never mind that the video shows the screenshot from different angles and shows the collapse occuring.
Are you saying two different events produced an identical dust cloud?

In the Naudets documentary 9/11 we see the white cloud after the impact of the second plane.

The footage was taken by a unknown cameraman at the corner of Vesey and Church–the northeast corner of the WTC complex. Gedeon Naudet in the film indicates he took this footage, but this could not have been the case since he was one block east at Broadway and Vesey. Here he filmed the missile that was put up on the Drudge Report.
http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

The unknown cameraman is filming WTC 1 on fire. He briefly lowers his camera and then raises it catching the second plane hitting WTC 2. After this his film lasts about two seconds and then there is an abrupt cut in the film (i.e. missile explosion) then we see him running for his life north on Church Street. At some point he cowers against a tall building on the west side of Church and points his camera toward the south in the direction of WTC. Here we see the same white cloud drifting across the intersection of Vesey and Church.

Jules Naudet also filmed the white cloud when he was in the lobby of WTC 1 with the firemen. WTC 2 is hit. Jules points his camera toward the east side of the building catching the falling debris outside from WTC 2. While filming this the white cloud drifts north to south toward WTC 2.

 

[Firestone]

MaGZ's version of events is already out on DVD:

 

[beachnut]

No missiles at ground zero.

No proof. Just lies from MaGZ.

But he proved he gets his junk from white power groups. And if you are pure dumb you can join for 12 dollars a month; just 144 dollars a year to be dumb and white. No, if you are normal you can not join.

He can not join his great grandmother is jewish, they would ban Jesus too (can not even trust the blue eye, blond hair myth). (he failed the dumb test, he is smarter than MaGZ; he can say bird.) Butters can not join Cartman in 9/11 truth or the secret neoNut group. Where are the missiles? (do you really use these neoNut sites for your information?)


Still no missiles. zip...

Still no missiles.

 

[Mancman]

In the Naudets documentary 9/11 we see the white cloud after the impact of the second plane.

The footage was taken by a unknown cameraman at the corner of Vesey and Church–the northeast corner of the WTC complex. Gedeon Naudet in the film indicates he took this footage, but this could not have been the case since he was one block east at Broadway and Vesey. Here he filmed the missile that was put up on the Drudge Report.
http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/Extra/3/flash91.htm

The unknown cameraman is filming WTC 1 on fire. He briefly lowers his camera and then raises it catching the second plane hitting WTC 2. After this his film lasts about two seconds and then there is an abrupt cut in the film (i.e. missile explosion) then we see him running for his life north on Church Street. At some point he cowers against a tall building on the west side of Church and points his camera toward the south in the direction of WTC. Here we see the same white cloud drifting across the intersection of Vesey and Church.

Jules Naudet also filmed the white cloud when he was in the lobby of WTC 1 with the firemen. WTC 2 is hit. Jules points his camera toward the east side of the building catching the falling debris outside from WTC 2. While filming this the white cloud drifts north to south toward WTC 2.

Nope, 100% wrong again, the only dust cloud you see in the Naudet film at that moment is from the explosion of Flight 175 itself.

Explain why WTC7 is intact at 9:59am if it was struck by a missile at 9:03am:

 

[babazaroni]

Explain why WTC7 is intact at 9:59am if it was struck by a missile at 9:03am

I just can't wait for the weak stream of logic from MaGZ to explain this picture. If he has any dignity, he can only claim that it's altered and scurry off.

 

[scissorhands]

Beachnut, racist sterotyping doesnt really help here.
The guy is stupid, yes, his colour is totally irrelevant.
Stupidity is colour blind.

 

[MaGZ]

Nope, 100% wrong again, the only dust cloud you see in the Naudet film at that moment is from the explosion of Flight 175 itself.

Explain why WTC7 is intact at 9:59am if it was struck by a missile at 9:03am:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/1025245ca632de9d98.jpg

A good question.

The white cloud was from the missile explosion not the burning of WTC 7.
After a few minutes the white cloud disappeared.
It took a while for the fires on the several floors caused by the missile impact to be noticed from a distance.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

A good question.

The white cloud was from the missile explosion not the burning of WTC 7.
After a few minutes the white cloud disappeared.
It took a while for the fires on the several floors caused by the missile impact to be noticed from a distance.

Umm... So now your mythical missile does no visible, physical damage?

 

[scissorhands]

You really are just making this up as you go along, arent you?

 

[stateofgrace]

A good question.

The white cloud was from the missile explosion not the burning of WTC 7.
After a few minutes the white cloud disappeared.
It took a while for the fires on the several floors caused by the missile impact to be noticed from a distance.

Oh I see, so it appeared from a distance that WTC 7 had not been hit by a missile but it had in fact been hit by a missile.

What about those inside the building, did anybody inside WTC 7 notice a missile hitting the building they were in?

 

[babazaroni]

OK, MaGZ. I'll help you out a little bit.

The massive debris cloud you claim is the result of a missile into WTC 7, is claimed by other CT'ers to be an explosion at WTC 6, the building between the North tower and WTC 7.

Now don't you think that the explosion that caused that massive debris cloud would have left some kind of mark on WTC 7 visible in a picture even from this distance?

 

[MaGZ]

Umm... So now your mythical missile does no visible, physical damage?

No
If you could move the view of this photo north and see a clear shot down Vesey Street (the southern face of WTC 7) you would see some smoke coming form the 14th floor. At this angel it is not visible.

 

[MaGZ]

You really are just making this up as you go along, arent you?

Remember, I’m just a dumb white guy. How could I be so clever as to make this stuff up.

 

[babazaroni]

No
If you could move the view of this photo north and see a clear shot down Vesey Street (the southern face of WTC 7) you would see some smoke coming form the 14th floor. At this angel it is not visible.

The south face of the 14th floor is clearly visible in the previous picture.

The debris cloud was centered between WTC 7 and WTC 1. There should be damage visible in this picture.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

No
If you could move the view of this photo north and see a clear shot down Vesey Street (the southern face of WTC 7) you would see some smoke coming form the 14th floor. At this angel it is not visible.

That's what I was hoping for. You don't even know which building is WTC7...

http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magzisstupidhr3.jpg

 

[MaGZ]

Oh I see, so it appeared from a distance that WTC 7 had not been hit by a missile but it had in fact been hit by a missile.

What about those inside the building, did anybody inside WTC 7 notice a missile hitting the building they were in?

Yes, these two experienced the explosion inside WTC 7.

After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said.

http://www.record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm

 

[MaGZ]

OK, MaGZ. I'll help you out a little bit.

The massive debris cloud you claim is the result of a missile into WTC 7, is claimed by other CT'ers to be an explosion at WTC 6, the building between the North tower and WTC 7.

Now don't you think that the explosion that caused that massive debris cloud would have left some kind of mark on WTC 7 visible in a picture even from this distance?

I disagree with those who say the explosion happened in the center of WTC 6. The top portion of WTC 1 above the fire line tipped over and hit dead center onto WTC 6 when WTC 1 came down. This caused a great fire in WTC 6.

The missile hit on the 14th floor of WTC 7.

 

[babazaroni]

After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said.

So you are saying a missile hit the 14th floor causing fires there, then destroyed the lobby, yet no sign of damage on the south face of WTC 7.

 

[MaGZ]

That's what I was hoping for. You don't even know which building is WTC7...

http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magzisstupidhr3.jpg

It is difficult to tell. Does the picture show the west side of WTC 7 or the souther face? Hard to say.

 

[stateofgrace]

Yes, these two experienced the explosion inside WTC 7.

After the initial blast, Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, reported to a command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center. He was with Michael Hess, the city's corporation counsel, when they felt and heard another explosion. First calling for help, they scrambled downstairs to the lobby, or what was left of it. "I looked around, the lobby was gone. It looked like hell," Jennings said.

http://www.record-eagle.com/2001/sep/11scene.htm

Indeed .....................

Three inches of thick gray ash covered the streets around the destroyed buildings. City Housing Authority worker Barry Jennings, 46, was in a city command center on the 23rd floor of a neighboring Trade Center building during the second explosion.
He and city Corporation Counsel Michael Hess made it downstairs, where the lobby was just gone. "I thought I was dead," Jennings said. "It looked like hell."

http://www.boston.com/news/daily/11/world_trade_center.htm

So was this before or after the Towers collapsed?

Remember you said a missile hit WTC 7 before they collapsed.