The Missiles at Ground Zero

[MaGZ]

Please address my post with the photo above. Is that a reasonable explanation for the phenomenon you saw?

Remember, thousands of cameras caught that phenomenon. Zero recorded a missile, although they had to have, according to you.

Remember also that several thousand people were in WTC 7 when the south tower was hit. A missile did not hit that building, and the massive damage done to WTC 7 was not done at that time. Those thousands of people – including some who post here – would have noticed that.

Are things becoming clearer now?

No that was not on the video I saw. The last time I saw this film was about two years ago on an Arab news program (Link TV)

 

[Gravy]

No that was not on the video I saw. The last time I saw this film was about two years ago on an Arab news program (Link TV)

What do you have to say about the facts that

1) No cameras captured this "missile," although thousands were pointed right at the scene. None of the videos available online or for purchase show this "missile." None.

2) No eyewitnesses reported a missile or explosion in WTC 7, although thousands were right there, including the thousands of people in that building.

3) The large damage done to the south face of WTC 7 occurred after the tower collapses.

Please respond to each of these points.

 

[babazaroni]

WTC 7 was the a national security building for NYC. Look at all the offices it held. You didn't know that?

MaGZ, you don't need to bring missiles into the picture to endanger the secrets in WTC 7.

Don't you think the damage from the North Tower collapse would do the job just as well?

 

[LashL]

MaGZ has got to be a windup. Whether it is simply the poorest excuse of a windup ever ever, the latest of ShillClown's socks, or the latest of pdoh's socks, it really has to be a windup.

Nobody can be as clueless as MaGZ and still breathe and operate a computer at the same time.

 

[MaGZ]

Stop the nonsense Magz, and answer the question.

When did this demolition force perform all of the necessary calculations for the demolition (taking into account the unbalanced loading caused by the 'missle'), locate the structural members, cut the sheetrock, place the explosives, and run the wires?

The government may have special national security teams to bring down sensitive building that were damaged due to earthquakes, fires, etc. They may practice many different scenarios to bring a building down. Also some of these building may be designed to have explosives placed in areas to quickly bring down a building. They would need blueprints where to place the explosives and the explosives themselves.

 

[MaGZ]

What do you have to say about the facts that

1) No cameras captured this "missile," although thousands were pointed right at the scene. None of the videos available online or for purchase show this "missile." None.


2) No eyewitnesses reported a missile or explosion in WTC 7, although thousands were right there, including the thousands of people in that building.


Eyewitnesses seconds after the crash of flight 175 said they saw a missile(see CNN transcript)
3) The large damage done to the south face of WTC 7 occurred after the tower collapses.


Please respond to each of these points.

Question1 The film taken by Gedeon Naudet captured the missile.

Question2 Eyewitnesses seconds after the crash of flight 175 said they saw a missile(see CNN transcript)

Question3 the damage was done to WTC 7 seconds after the crash of flight 175.

 

[Alareth]

babazroni,
The large damage to the southern face of WTC 7 was caused by the missile and not the fall of WTC 1. The missile started the fires in WTC 7. A decision had to be made about the building. The fire department determined the building would likely fall at some point in time. If it fell on its own it would have fallen toward its weakest point--the southwest where debris from WTC 1 damaged the corner.

A national security demolition team would be needed to control the situation and secure all vital information in the building.

Ok, lets take a look at this post because, aside from the delusional missle hypothesis, it contains a "Truth Movement" advocate admitting 2 things that they usually vehemently deny.

1. A large amount of damage to WTC 7 prior to collapse.
2. WTC 7 could have collapsed without controlled demolition.

Should we do something to celebrate?

 

[gumboot]

The government may have special national security teams to bring down sensitive building that were damaged due to earthquakes, fires, etc. They may practice many different scenarios to bring a building down. Also some of these building may be designed to have explosives placed in areas to quickly bring down a building. They would need blueprints where to place the explosives and the explosives themselves.

May?

I can play this game too.

The US Government may be a collection of plastic robots controlled by an alien space ship in deep orbit. This alien spaceship may be controlled by its designers who originate from a foreign planet. This foreign planet may be in the Centauri system.

-Gumboot

 

[MaGZ]

MaGZ, you don't need to bring missiles into the picture to endanger the secrets in WTC 7.

Don't you think the damage from the North Tower collapse would do the job just as well?

The North Tower collapse would have just damaged the southwest corner and would not have started any fires.

 

[beachnut]

Question1 The film taken by Gedeon Naudet captured the missile.

Question2 Eyewitnesses seconds after the crash of flight 175 said they saw a missile(see CNN transcript)

Question3 the damage was done to WTC 7 seconds after the crash of flight 175.

No missile the object is moving too slow or fast; was it a bird?

No one saw a missile; an engine and airplane parts but no missile.

No. The damage to WTC7 came as most will tell you after the WTC towers fell.

 

[VespaGuy]

emphasis mine:

The government may have special national security teams to bring down sensitive building that were damaged due to earthquakes, fires, etc. They may practice many different scenarios to bring a building down. Also some of these building may be designed to have explosives placed in areas to quickly bring down a building. They would need blueprints where to place the explosives and the explosives themselves.

Magz, your ignorance is staggering. You have NO idea what is involved in a controlled demolition. You have dreampt this entire scenerio in your head.

Do you understand what you are saying?

A missle, which wasn't seen by anyone and does not appear on any of the dozens of videos, accidently hit WTC 7 and caused the ensuing fire. By your own admission the fire department had asserted that the building would likely fall.

So a sooper-sekret 'national security demolition team', which so far exists only in your head, went into the burning building and wired it for demolition without anyone noticing. They first located the building structural drawings. Then taking into account all of the damage, performed the necessary calculations to determine how to perform this demolition. They then had the necessary explosives/wiring delivered to the site. They then 'wired' the building which required large cutting tools, placing wires, walking in and out of an unstable building (and endangering their own lives) with explosives while making sure that none of the firefighters, police, or cameras in the area noticed.

According to you, this elite team of super-fast demo-experts thought that the best course of securing 'vital information' was to destroy the building that contains it, even though:
-it was already on fire destroying everything inside
-it was going to fall anyhow
-demolishing the building is a sloppy way to hide info since documents could easily be found among the rubble.

And you believe all of this despite these facts:
There is no proof of this super-sekret demolition squad.
There is no proof of 'previously hidden explosives'
There is no proof of a missle.
The demolition you propose within the timeline you propse is highly improbable
All of this took place in broad daylight, in front of countless police, firefighters and cameras yet you have no proof.

I agree with LashL. Magz is a troll, a child, or someone in desperate need of psychiatric help.

Magz, if you are pulling our collective chains - good job. Your nonsense is similar to what gets repeated here by other CTs (ignoring answers to your questions, spurios claims without evicdence, etc), so you can understand how hard it is to tell the difference between a joker and an actual CT.

However, if you honestly believe the rubbish you spout, please seek help.

 

[Gravy]

Question1 The film taken by Gedeon Naudet captured the missile.

Produce a still, or point me to the film and tell me at what minute and second this phenomenon appears. Fair enough?

Question2 Eyewitnesses seconds after the crash of flight 175 said they saw a missile(see CNN transcript)

False. They said they saw smoke trails leading from the WTC, and reported that a missile might have been fired from the Woolworth building: from the opposite direction that you say the missile came from. They were wrong, of course. They had seen the smoke from the engine that landed near Murray Street, and the landing gear that landed on 45 Park Place. I posted a photo of that incident.

Question3 the damage was done to WTC 7 seconds after the crash of flight 175.

Provide a single witness who corroborates your claim. Fair enough?

The North Tower collapse would have just damaged the southwest corner and would not have started any fires.

Please read my paper on WTC 7, which is here: http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc (.doc file) or PDF http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.pdf

It will show you how wrong you are.

Goodbye, MaGZ, and good luck with your delusions.

 

[MaGZ]

No missile the object is moving too slow.

No one saw a missile; an engine and airplane parts but no missile.

No. The damage to WTC7 came as most will tell you after the WTC towers fell.

Reporter tells CNN some saw a missile as it happened LIVE.

Quote:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, I don't know whether we've confirmed that this was an aircraft, or to be more specific, some people said they thought they saw a missile. I don't know how people could differentiate, but we might keep open the possibility that this was a missile attack on these buildings.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Reporter tells CNN some saw a missile as it happened LIVE.

Quote:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, I don't know whether we've confirmed that this was an aircraft, or to be more specific, some people said they thought they saw a missile. I don't know how people could differentiate, but we might keep open the possibility that this was a missile attack on these buildings.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html

well, this unidentified male, who im sure is an expert in identifying missiles, was referring to what hit WTC1+2, not 7

 

[babazaroni]

Reporter tells CNN some saw a missile as it happened LIVE.

Quote:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, I don't know whether we've confirmed that this was an aircraft, or to be more specific, some people said they thought they saw a missile. I don't know how people could differentiate, but we might keep open the possibility that this was a missile attack on these buildings.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html

Bolding mine.

MaGZ, isn't it possible that an event witnessed and experienced by thousands of people could generate some bizarre statements by people in a panic?

If you go around, find these statements, you can put together quite a fanciful hypothisis of what happened that day.

 

[LashL]

Actually, I rather like this new (more likely recylcled) conspiracy fantasist spouting his missile fantasy. It shows, rather dramatically, how crazy some of the CFs are.

I say, let him run with it

 

[beachnut]

Reporter tells CNN some saw a missile as it happened LIVE.

Quote:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jim, I don't know whether we've confirmed that this was an aircraft, or to be more specific, some people said they thought they saw a missile. I don't know how people could differentiate, but we might keep open the possibility that this was a missile attack on these buildings.
[URL]http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html[/URL]

He is talking about flight 175; the planes, the planes!?

The big thing here is the sound of two supersonic missiles; where is the sound?

There are no sounds of missiles the whole day! No video which was running all the day after the first impact! Where are the video on all the full coverage on many cameras running during the time your missiles attacked? There is no way the missiles would be missed?

No sonic boom, means no missiles! Simple facts; you need to get the sounds which were not there that day live TV we would have heard the sonic boom.

How did you miss this live on TV. Your ability to reseach is really poor. There are no sounds of missiles on 9/11. How did you miss this?

 

[twinstead]

Actually, I rather like this new (more likely recylcled) conspiracy fantasist spouting his missile fantasy. It shows, rather dramatically, how crazy some of the CFs are.

I say, let him run with it

I agree. We need some levity.

 

[MaGZ]

Produce a still, or point me to the film and tell me at what minute and second this phenomenon appears. Fair enough?

False. They said they saw smoke trails leading from the WTC, and reported that a missile might have been fired from the Woolworth building: from the opposite direction that you say the missile came from. They were wrong, of course. They had seen the smoke from the engine that landed near Murray Street, and the landing gear that landed on 45 Park Place. I posted a photo of that incident.

Provide a single witness who corroborates your claim. Fair enough?

Please read my paper on WTC 7, which is here: http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc (.doc file) or PDF http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.pdf

It will show you how wrong you are.

Goodbye, MaGZ, and good luck with your delusions.

Flight 175: As the World Watched on Discovery Times is the program that shows the missile. It appears about 45 minuets into the program.

I take it you have by now read the CNN transcript that tells of the witnesses.

 

[twinstead]

Yikes