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Donn said:
This is grotesque and shameful. C'mon. Can't you hold your corner without clichéd gumpf?
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No its not. Whether you like it or not, it is demonstrably true. Do I think people that come from Arab nations are inherently dumber? I do not. I do believe however that they are intellectually stifled by their religion.
 
Scorpion said:
You missed off the end of the verse which makes clear he was referring to his disciples.

Luke 14
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple
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So his dicta can only be applied to 12 individuals? It is to larf. It does say quite plainly "any man." Whether the comment applies to only 12 or to many, it is a cruel statement regardless.
 
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Scorpion said:
You may be rightQUOTE]

I am right all i say.

Islam is the only divine religion.

Islam has always been a religion since the first people.

But people changed their religion in history and gave names like Hinduism and Christianity.

And this change has always been done in the direction of Spiritualism/Paganism, polytheism.

Ghosts, polytheism (Hindus saying "333 in 1", you are saying "3 in 1", holy people, asceticism, fakirism...

Real Islam, real religion is only in Quran now.
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Emre_1974tr said:
Scorpion said:
You may be rightQUOTE]

I am right all i say.

Islam is the only divine religion.

Islam has always been a religion since the first people.

But people changed their religion in history and gave names like Hinduism and Christianity.

And this change has always been done in the direction of Spiritualism/Paganism, polytheism.

Ghosts, polytheism (Hindus saying "333 in 1", you are saying "3 in 1", holy people, asceticism, fakirism...

Real Islam, real religion is only in Quran now.
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Get off the kool-aid. All Religions think they are right and divine. I've yet to hear one that wasn't nonsense including Islam...no especially Islam. Try science, it works.
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acbytesla said:
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No, there is no such thing in the Qur'an.

Real Islam is only in Quran:

https://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/223245-real-ýslam-is-only-in-quran/

According to the Qur'an, you can not even slap anyone.

What makes you think I did not read the books you mentioned?

You are who has not read enough scientific books.
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Get a job...get a life. Learn something real...not an absurd mythology based on the rantings of a murderous pedophile from the 7the century. Pay attention to humans who actually study chemistry, biology, physics and math. Start treating women as equals. Stop beating your women as the Koran instructs you to. Enough with honor killings Put sharia law in the toilet where it belongs. Draw human characters....play music..sing songs...join the 21st century.

Try Plato, Marcus Aurelius, David Hume, Spinoza, Thomas Paine Thomas Jefferson Tolstoy or Christopher Hitchens or Salman Rushdie. Get your head out of the Dark Ages. Learn something useful, not mythical.

You and the world will be better for it.
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Emre_1974tr said:
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And read Quran.
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You said the Koran doesn’t say that Muhammad didn't fly on winged horses.
Followers of all Islamic denominations unanimously agree on the occurrence of the Prophet’s night journey to Heaven. It is explicitly mentioned in the holy Quran the book which all Muslims agree upon:

سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلًا مِّنَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ إِلَى الْمَسْجِدِ الْأَقْصَى الَّذِي بَارَكْنَا حَوْلَهُ لِنُرِيَهُ مِنْ آيَاتِنَا ۚ إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْبَصِيرُ
Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing. (17:1) https://www.quora.com/Muslims-Do-you-really-believe-that-Mohammed-flew-to-heaven-on-a-winged-horse
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It's one thing to preach...it's another to lie for your God. Koo Koo for Coco Puffs.
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Emre_1974tr said:
No, Islam has been there since the first people. Even before people have.
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Lies. Islam is a copy of a copy of a watered down religion (Judaisim). Islam took the same mythological war god the Jews and then the Christians worshipped and modified it further for their own purposes. Now you are trying to modify it further. Do you see yourself as a prophet? Are you trying to start your own islamic branch/sect/cult?
 
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Emre_1974tr said:
Scorpion said:
You may be rightQUOTE]

I am right all i say.

Islam is the only divine religion.

Islam has always been a religion since the first people.

But people changed their religion in history and gave names like Hinduism and Christianity.

And this change has always been done in the direction of Spiritualism/Paganism, polytheism.

Ghosts, polytheism (Hindus saying "333 in 1", you are saying "3 in 1", holy people, asceticism, fakirism...

Real Islam, real religion is only in Quran now.
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Have you actually read the Upanishads? They pre date the Quran by a couple of thousand years, and they say we are all divine.
Give your mind a rest from the evil lies in the Quran and read the Upanishads. They are truly spiritual.
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