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Emre_1974tr said:
You Christians are aware that the Quran is the only perfect book and you are working on it.

Even in this forum, Christian missionaries are trying to prevent the spread of Islam by using different masks.

They promote themselves as if they are not Christians.

Such strategies must be followed because they are desperate in front of the perfection of the Qur'an.

They introduce themselves as members of another teaching.

This is a sufficient proof of the supremacy of Islam.

So you have to play such games Scorpion.

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Yes, the spread of Islam gives me nightmares. Every time I hear some daft white woman has converted to Islam I wish I could have saved her.

As for the Quran being perfect I would regard that statement as a joke if it were not a tragedy.

As I just said I am not a Christian, if I must be labelled I am a spiritualist.
 
I wouldn't say Islam is any more inherently evil than Christianity.

'Spiritualists' are equally misguided, there is no more evidence for 'spirits' than there is for any of the so called gods.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I wouldn't say Islam is any more inherently evil than Christianity.
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I have not written a lengthy piece on Islam for a while, but I might write one comparing Jesus teachings with Muhammad's. To do the job properly will require bible quotes and Quran quotes, but I will tell you my conclusions now.

Apart from the much quoted verse where Jesus says he came to bring a sword not peace, the rest of Jesus teachings are largely benign. He teaches love and forgiveness.
But Muhammad's teachings are a totally transparent attempt to scare silly Arabs into fighting his wars for him. He even incites them to die for him.
 
Christian missionaries will never accept that they are missionaries. Their aim is to bring you the consistency that they want and they do it with various masks.

In each forum salaried employees work day and night.
 
Scorpion said:
Yes, the spread of Islam gives me nightmares. Every time I hear some daft white woman has converted to Islam I wish I could have saved her.
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What's with this daft white woman fetish? Why are white women somehow the canary in your balmy coal mine?

Why would you not be equally alarmed by some Indian bloke converting to Islam?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I wouldn't say Islam is any more inherently evil than Christianity.
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I have made a start at gathering quotes to support my view that Islam is evil but Christianity is not. I could gather more quotes all day but here are some to be going on with.

Here are some quotes from Muhammad in the Quran. As can be seen they are full of violence and fighting.

5.33. The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

8.12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

9.5 But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans
wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in
every stratagem (of war);

33.61 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be
seized and slain (without mercy).

47.4 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them):

Contrast the above with the teachings of Jesus, below.

Matthew chapter 5

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 
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Scorpion said:
I have made a start at gathering quotes to support my view that Islam is evil but Christianity is not. I could gather more quotes all day but here are some to be going on with.
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I am sure I could find quotes to support the exact opposite view.
I am sure that there are enough quotes in both books to support any view you want.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
I am sure I could find quotes to support the exact opposite view.
I am sure that there are enough quotes in both books to support any view you want.
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No there ain't. The verses I have quoted are typical of the difference between the warmongering trash of Muhammad and the merciful teachings of Jesus.

There is only one verse you can use against Jesus, and that is where he says he came to bring a sword, not peace. But that is such a contradiction to the rest of his teachings, I suspect he never even said it.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Here's a problem with the age of the Earth.

Imagine someone you don't know has put a bowl of random cake mix in the oven and left it cooking. You walk by later and decide it can be taken out because you think it is now ready to eat. So some questions:

1) Exactly when did the cake start cooking? What information do you need to determine your answer? Be as precise as you can.

2) When did the cake finish cooking? Exactly the time you walked by? Ten seconds before that? Thirty seconds before that? It could have cooked for longer maybe? Be as precise as you can.

Go!
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Oh my god I came into this thread with some good points and things, but then I saw this.

Someone actually did that at my place during a friend's birthday. Could have killed them.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
You ignore the Old Testament?
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What has the old testament got to do with Christianity?

Jesus reformed the teachings of the old testament, like and eye for an eye, and taught forgiveness.

Matthew 5

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
 
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Scorpion said:
What has the old testament got to do with Christianity?

Jesus reformed the teachings of the old testament, like and eye for an eye, and taught forgiveness.
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Can you point me at a Christian that believes Jesus retroactively un-did the flood that killed all of mankind except six people?

And were did Jesus teach anti-homosexuality?
 
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Scorpion said:
What has the old testament got to do with Christianity?

Jesus reformed the teachings of the old testament, like and eye for an eye, and taught forgiveness.

Matthew 5

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
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Yet the Old Testament is part of the Bible and it is used by Christians as part of their religion.
You can't ignore the genocidal violence in it to make your case against Islam stronger, that would be Cherry Picking.
 
Scorpion:

Earlier in Mat 5 we find:

Mat_5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat_5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 
You're nothing but a liar and insidious missionary, Scorpion.

Even if you play such games, it shows once again that you are not on the divine path.

Peace
 
Emre_1974tr said:
You're nothing but a liar and insidious missionary, Scorpion.

Even if you play such games, it shows once again that you are not on the divine path.

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Address the argument, not the arguer.

Getting snippy will only get you in trouble.

PLease explain what exactly is 'The divine path'.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
You're nothing but a liar and insidious missionary, Scorpion.

Even if you play such games, it shows once again that you are not on the divine path.

Peace
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Lol. your sky daddy is better than his sky daddy. Why don't you have your gods meet in the car park after school and they can punch it out?

Oh, they don't exist thats why. Funny how humans have to tell other humans what their infallible omnipotent all powerful egos gods actually mean and how theirs is the only one true all powerful deiety. Just because.
 
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