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Emre_1974tr said:
As the Qur'an says, stars make shooting from light / flame.
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The Quran is pretty bad with English.

If we go back to SPECTRE again;

Quran 14:46 And they schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.
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You realise that James Bond is fictional, right? Or was that the whole point you were making, that the Quran is fictional as well?
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Illuminati/SPECTRE is real.
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SPECTRE is an organisation in a series of books and movies.

The Illuminati is an organisation in the minds of conspiracy theorists.

But hey, you can make history by naming some members of these organisations and presenting your evidence that they are indeed members.

You won't, of course. This is all just a game to you.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
Illuminati/SPECTRE is real.
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No, SPECTRE does not exist in real life.

No, the Illuminati and SPECTRE are not identical, either in real life or in the fictional universes in which those terms arise and have been commonly used.

Not only are you confusing fact with fiction, you can't get even the fictional part right.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
As the Qur'an says, stars make shooting from light / flame.
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Which you then wrongly equate to plasma. Plasma is not light. Light is not flame. Flame is not plasma. It's fine if you want to conflate those concepts informally, but you're trying to claim in addition that science has confirmed these relationships. It most certainly has not. Science has precise definitions for those terms, and they have nothing to with concepts taken from the Qur'an or made up by you.

If we go back to SPECTRE again;
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SPECTRE is a fictional organization invented by Ian Fleming and later incorporated by screenwriter Richard Maibaum into other adaptations of James Bond stories for film. It has no existence outside the fictional world of the 007 stories.
 
Belz... said:
SPECTRE is an organisation in a series of books and movies.

The Illuminati is an organisation in the minds of conspiracy theorists.

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SPECTRE=ILLUMINATI

And Ian Fleming was an agent who infiltrated them. And he tried to warn humanity against them.

With James Bond novels/movies.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
SPECTRE=ILLUMINATI

And Ian Fleming was an agent who infiltrated them. And he tried to warn humanity against them.

With James Bond novels/movies.
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Ha ha ha.

Nice one. Well, I can't say you didn't fool us for a time, though. Went a bit too far with this one, however. Now the jig is up. Not a bad show at all, I have to say.
 
Emre, did you know that it's a matter of court record that Ian Fleming claimed SPECTRE as his fictional invention? SPECTRE didn't appear until Thunderball, which was Fleming's first attempt to create his own Bond stories for the screen rather than in print. However, Richard Maibaum, who was working on scripts for the other movies, incorporated SPECTRE into them without Fleming's permission. Fleming sued, claiming that Maibaum had appropriated his creation without a proper license; Maibaum and the Broccoli-Salzmann consortium did not then have the rights to Thunderball.

Fleming's case in court would have been greatly undermined if he had no proprietary rights in the name and character of SPECTRE. Had it simply been a different name for the Illuminati, or had existed in any way in real life, then Maibaum could easily have defended against the suit by showing that these were common things, not Fleming's creation, and that he was justified in his use of them. Instead, the Rick & Cubby club was forced to settle. SPECTRE is fictional, and this is established public record.
 
JayUtah said:
Emre, did you know that it's a matter of court record that Ian Fleming claimed SPECTRE as his fictional invention? SPECTRE didn't appear until Thunderball, which was Fleming's first attempt to create his own Bond stories for the screen rather than in print. However, Richard Maibaum, who was working on scripts for the other movies, incorporated SPECTRE into them without Fleming's permission. Fleming sued, claiming that Maibaum had appropriated his creation without a proper license; Maibaum and the Broccoli-Salzmann consortium did not then have the rights to Thunderball.

Fleming's case in court would have been greatly undermined if he had no proprietary rights in the name and character of SPECTRE. Had it simply been a different name for the Illuminati, or had existed in any way in real life, then Maibaum could easily have defended against the suit by showing that these were common things, not Fleming's creation, and that he was justified in his use of them. Instead, the Rick & Cubby club was forced to settle. SPECTRE is fictional, and this is established public record.
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Would anybody really believe that an organisation called "masters of evil" or "injustice league" or "legion of doom" would exist? That'd be a PR nightmare, and so would the SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion.
 
Belz... said:
Would anybody really believe that an organisation called "masters of evil" or "injustice league" or "legion of doom" would exist? That'd be a PR nightmare, and so would the SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion.
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That's how backronyms tend to work. We need one for SPHINCTRE.
 
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