The Markets, Trading & Charts Thread

[The Central Scrutinizer]

what dont you understand about a $5trillion a day market where to every loser there is a winner?

I have a feeling there are infinitely more losers analyzing charts than there are winners.

 

[kevsta]

I have a feeling there are infinitely more losers analyzing charts than there are winners.

which is also after all what I have been saying all along, no? 90% ish.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

which is also after all what I have been saying all along, no? 90% ish.

I'd put it closer to 100%. In fact, almost exactly 100%.

 

[kevsta]

I'd put it closer to 100%. In fact, almost exactly 100%.

100% of traders using using charts are losers. ok lets say we agreed with that.

tell me then, the other main question of the thread

WHO IS WINNING AND HOW?

or go away and stop embarassing yourself.

 

[GlennB]

Many times in my life I've had people tell me about their "winning systems", whether they be for the casino, sports betting, stocks+shares or whatever.

Every time I asked: "So, why are you not living in luxury on your very own Caribbean island?"

Never yet had a good answer to that question .....

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

100% of traders using using charts are losers. ok lets say we agreed with that.

tell me then, the other main question of the thread

WHO IS WINNING AND HOW?

or go away and stop embarassing yourself.

Perhaps you need use a wider definition of "loser".

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Many times in my life I've had people tell me about their "winning systems", whether they be for the casino, sports betting, stocks+shares or whatever.

Every time I asked: "So, why are you not living in luxury on your very own Caribbean island?"

Never yet had a good answer to that question .....

I've had gold bugs tell me how much their investment has gone up over the last 5 years. And yet, they never seem to have any money. Then I find out they only have 2 ounces.

 

[kevsta]

Perhaps you need use a wider definition of "loser".

perpetual avoidance perenially noted.

and if that is your best attempt at sly abuse you're about to be totally outclassed by the imminent arrival of the bot. The boy on Fiverr has done us proud.

 

[kevsta]

Many times in my life I've had people tell me about their "winning systems", whether they be for the casino, sports betting, stocks+shares or whatever.

Every time I asked: "So, why are you not living in luxury on your very own Caribbean island?"

Never yet had a good answer to that question .....

would "only found it a year or so back" be acceptable?

and it is not "my winning system" but it is a potentially profitable system in the right hands, of that much I'm pretty certain now.

 

[kevsta]

Apple was funny today, the ol' low and declining volume 10 blues in a row chestnut again.

what fakes up must come down

and this is possibly the technically most perfect cycle I have found thus far, the pullbacks and stopruns of the lines are so regular and precise that you could set pending orders on the lines with your stoploss behind the next line, win virtually every trade here and half the time would be buying at the very tip of the stopruns.

wonder what the news is. anything going on with oil n that?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I can't believe I missed all those pushes and those numerous Hindenburg circles.

 

[AdMan]

You would think someone spending so much time marking up charts would instead use some of that time and effort trying to make some actual money.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

You would think someone spending so much time marking up charts would instead use some of that time and effort trying to make some actual money.

You're just bitter because you don't recognize the pushes and the stop gaps.

 

[kevsta]

You would think..

nobody here neither of you is capable of doing this effectively on this topic.

its like you're market creationists.

 

[AdMan]

nobody here neither of you is capable of doing this effectively on this topic.

its like you're market creationists.

You're apparently failing to see who's making the extraordinary claims here and who needs to provide evidence supporting them.

And no, silly candlestick charts marked up after-the-fact don't count.

 

[kevsta]

You're apparently failing to see who's making the extraordinary claims here and who needs to provide evidence supporting them.

And no, silly candlestick charts marked up after-the-fact don't count.

you are clearly and deliberately failing to see the evidence presented.

and "marked up after the fact" is just trolling. poor trolling at that.

1. I tell you which trades I would look for
2. I then take the trades as described
3. I document at the time and all the way through.
4. What I say happens

deny deny deny deny deny deny the world IS only 15000 years old!! CNBC told me!!

sad excuses for critical thinkers you are.

 

[AdMan]

you are clearly and deliberately failing to see the evidence presented.

and "marked up after the fact" is just trolling. poor trolling at that.

1. I tell you which trades I would look for
2. I then take the trades as described
3. I document at the time and all the way through.
4. What I say happens

deny deny deny deny deny deny the world IS only 15000 years old!! CNBC told me!!

sad excuses for critical thinkers you are.

Blah blah blah blah blah

How much money have you consistently made?

 

[AdMan]

1. I tell you which trades I would look for
2. I then take the trades as described
3. I document at the time and all the way through.
4. What I say happens

Then show us that what you're doing can make you money.

It doesn't sound too hard, given what you're claiming, does it?

Won't do it? I didn't think so.

 

[kevsta]

Blah blah blah blah blah

How much money have you consistently made?

..er, objection.

IRRELEVANT!!!!!

as ever, and only due for the first annual report next year anyway even if it had anything to do with this, or you.

IT DOES NOT

THESE are the questions / observations you cannot answer, nor deny, from page 6:

Things I STILL Consider Proven With Zero Effective Argument from Anyone

1. There is an independent 3 push cycle in operation.
2. It is possible to foresee "ceilings" and "floors" from which price will turn long in advance
3. Close observation of spread behaviour at the turns is useful.
4. There is an effective way to trade the above observations.

the first three are proven fact, proven in this very thread to anyone who has the faintest idea what they are actually looking at.

your relentless sniveling about "real" money is as laughable as your lack of substantive argument and grasp of even the most basic facts.

"professional" lmao

 

[kevsta]

Then show us that what you're doing can make you money.

It doesn't sound too hard, given what you're claiming, does it?

Won't do it? I didn't think so.

look, if the plan is to just keep asking the same question until I give up and go away, just come out with it, it will save us both a lot of typing in the meantime.