I think it's a flaw most strongly evident in those who push self-righteous religious faith. Their self-image pretty much relies on this level of certainty (and delusion of superiority).
So I'd say it's a sliding scale.
The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.
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I think it's a flaw most strongly evident in those who push self-righteous religious faith. Their self-image pretty much relies on this level of certainty (and delusion of superiority).
So I'd say it's a sliding scale.
They are. Their "best interest" (such as it is) right now is hurting other people.
They aren't trying to make things better for themselves. They are trying to make it worse for everybody.
"Spite" is now a very, very major mover and shaker in politics.
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I suppose it depends on how both you and they define "best interest." Many define their best interest in economic terms, and vote for corrupt thieves and liars. Many define their best interest in other terms which are consistently violated by those they support. Better health, freedom, small government, Christian values, and so forth. Of course if you get psychological, you can point out that their best interests are what they support, not what they claim to support, and in that sense, of course, you're bound to be right. The covid denier who dies of covid with denial in his last words can be seen either way, depending on how you slice the term.
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I think we are seeing anothr example of the Mr Spock syndrome, where someone assumes humans are like Vulcans, totally logically and rational all the time. Human beings are not Vulcans.
(Yes, I know that Vulcans in Star Trek are not as totally rational as they like to believe, but sitll a good analogy ).
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I sort of disagree; militant political ideologues can be as bad as the worst religous beleivers.
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Along with laser-equipped bazookas made from balsa wood that can therefore evade airport scanners figuratively shoots holes in their well-regulated militia pronouncement, that's another aspect of modern life the founders didn't anticipate.
Good point - I remember the evangelicals from university. They couldn't have casual sex, but they got engaged very quickly and called their engagements off equally quickly. And whilst they weren't technically married, they were almost in their eyes, so that was perfectly OK
No special pleading or double standards there.
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Good point - I remember the evangelicals from university. They couldn't have casual sex, but they got engaged very quickly and called their engagements off equally quickly. And whilst they weren't technically married, they were almost in their eyes, so that was perfectly OK
No special pleading or double standards there.
I knew Mormons who had pre-marital anal sex but felt morally in the clear because it wasn't vaginal. As they were still technically virgins, it wasn't "real sex".
It was the same crowd as here.
Good point - I remember the evangelicals from university. They couldn't have casual sex, but they got engaged very quickly and called their engagements off equally quickly. And whilst they weren't technically married, they were almost in their eyes, so that was perfectly OK
No special pleading or double standards there.
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But the president who got only a blow-job was worthy of a full-press legal attack by the Right.
True, it's all faith-based and more or less arbitrary.
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I'm sure that was their theme song!
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...or go back to Dr Keith's post #1292, three before yours
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Historian Michael Burleigh (who wrote the best single volume history of the Third Reich)
has written a lot about what he calls "Secular Religions" ..mass political movements that have all the charecteristics of religions except they don't center around a Supreme Being.He points out that the mass poltical movements of the 20th century that caused so much suffering..Nazism, Fascism, Communism..all qualify. Heavily dogamtic,blind faith in a infallible source of knowledge (the Leader or the Party, or both); claims to be fighting a dark evil force,persecution of non beleivers, etc.
This is why I hate the fact that Hitler and Stalin were "atheist" is always this huge "gotcha" that religious folk drop.
First all it's a lie for at least one, maybe both them.
But even if it where true, they were anti-religious because they saw religious, organized religion especially, as a threat to their power. They weren't rational or measured people.
First all it's a lie for at least one, maybe both them.
But even if it where true, they were anti-religious because they saw religious, organized religion especially, as a threat to their power. They weren't rational or measured people.
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