The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

[jimbob]

I hope AOC does accept.

Occasio-Cortez comes prepared - armed with facts, figures, and a deep technical understanding of the ecology and the economics of the Green New Deal... MTG on the other hand took four days to read a 14-page document.

AOC will utterly demolish and humiliate Taylor-Greene... she will tear the "Jewish Space Lasers" idiot to shreds. MTG's only chance of coping will be to shout everything down and play pigeon chess. To that end, AOC will have to insist on some rules, for example a moderator who can turn off the debater's microphones if they won't shut up.

It reminds me somewhat of one of Dara O Briain's famous quips - AOC is the Professor of Dentistry, and MTG is the eejit who removes teeth with a string and a door.

Given your avatar, I was reminded of the dentist in this scene.

 

[Shadowdweller]

I hope AOC does accept.

Occasio-Cortez comes prepared - armed with facts, figures, and a deep technical understanding of the ecology and the economics of the Green New Deal... MTG on the other hand took four days to read a 14-page document.

AOC will utterly demolish and humiliate Taylor-Greene... she will tear the "Jewish Space Lasers" idiot to shreds. MTG's only chance of coping will be to shout everything down and play pigeon chess. To that end, AOC will have to insist on some rules, for example a moderator who can turn off the debater's microphones if they won't shut up.

It reminds me somewhat of one of Dara O Briain's famous quips - AOC is the Professor of Dentistry, and MTG is the eejit who removes teeth with a string and a door.

I hope AOC continues devoting her energy to campaigning and legislating instead. A debate with a fern or species of nail fungus would be more productive and persuasive than a debate with MTG.

 

[MRC_Hans]

I hope AOC continues devoting her energy to campaigning and legislating instead. A debate with a fern or species of nail fungus would be more productive and persuasive than a debate with MTG.

Agreed.
Never wrestle with pigs. ...

Hans

 

[smartcooky]

Given your avatar, I was reminded of the dentist in this scene.

Yup... I knew EXACTLY what that clip would be before I opened it!!

 

[RolandRat]

Agreed.
Never wrestle with pigs. ...

Hans

Absolutely. There is nothing to win in a debate with Greene. You debate people like that with facts and they will respond with idiocy, insults and conspiracy theories, then flounce off and declare themselves the winner. And their idiot followers will believe them.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Absolutely. There is nothing to win in a debate with Greene. You debate people like that with facts and they will respond with idiocy, insults and conspiracy theories, then flounce off and declare themselves the winner. And their idiot followers will believe them.

Leaving a trail of upturned pigeon-pooped chessboards behind them.

 

[newyorkguy]

Greene is relentless with the spin. Tuesday night she tweeted that Washington streets were deserted as a heavy police presence patrolled the city. Why? The Derek Chauvin verdict and fears the "domestic terrorist group" BLM were about to stage violent riots.

This plays into her base's prejudices and her supporters undoubtedly accept it -- and will endlessly repeat it to one another -- but not surprisingly, it wasn't true.

Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI) tweeted, “I’m in DC like @mtgreenee & she is either the most obtuse person elected to Congress or the biggest liar. People are out & about on a warm night (so loud by me it’s a bit hard to get to sleep) & there is no more police presence than usual. Let the lies rest, Q1.” The Beast report link

But if the streets weren't deserted, if the police presence was no more than on any other night, how does Greene rationalize lying about it? Undoubtedly, it's part of her effort to establish her 'brand' and solidify her base. It also has to do with fundraising, attracting donors. Below is a quote from her hometown newspaper, the Rome Georgia News-Tribune.

Eric Wilson, a digital strategist who has advised Sen. Marco Rubio and the National Republican Senatorial Committee [said], “For candidates like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Josh Hawley, who have largely been shunned by traditional corporate donors who are frequently the mainstays for elected officials, especially in off years, they have no choice but to pursue grassroots fundraising. And in order for that to work, they have to continue to make more noise. It is a feedback loop in that regard. News-Tribune link

In looking at Greene's Twitter account she appears to have removed this particular tweet (like she has done with tweets so many times before) but of course, not before someone screen capped it.

 

[newyorkguy]

...There is nothing to win in a debate with Greene...

I agree. There is no reason to debate this issue with Marjorie Greene. Her only purpose would be to appeal to her base by publicly insulting and ridiculing AOC. That's all she is looking for (and AOC undoubtedly knows it). It's not like Greene has a plan of her own that she believes would be more effective. She has no plan, only 'talking points.'

I read some time ago an interview with a scientist who is working on developing computers with artificial intelligence. At one point the conversation veered off into climate change. The scientist -- who also has a degree in biology and has worked in that field -- said he thought 'the window' on avoiding future catastrophe had closed, it was already too late. That he fully expects by the end of this century extreme weather will end humankind's time on this planet. He said the problem that had emerged was, that while the scientific community had reached consensus the political community had proven unable to do so. He is convinced that flaw -- politicians who reject science and refuse to plan for the long term -- has already doomed humankind. He could have been talking about you-know-who.

 

[phiwum]

I hope AOC does accept.

Occasio-Cortez comes prepared - armed with facts, figures, and a deep technical understanding of the ecology and the economics of the Green New Deal... MTG on the other hand took four days to read a 14-page document.

AOC will utterly demolish and humiliate Taylor-Greene... she will tear the "Jewish Space Lasers" idiot to shreds. MTG's only chance of coping will be to shout everything down and play pigeon chess. To that end, AOC will have to insist on some rules, for example a moderator who can turn off the debater's microphones if they won't shut up.

It reminds me somewhat of one of Dara O Briain's famous quips - AOC is the Professor of Dentistry, and MTG is the eejit who removes teeth with a string and a door.

Ah, you're so hopelessly optimistic.

Sure, on merits, AOC (who I don't particularly respect) will dominate. She does actually understand the issues. But that wouldn't matter, because those who admire MTG will conclude that she owned AOC. What good do facts do? What matters is an attack that already confirms one's preconceptions: AOC wants to turn us socialist and MTG is fighting the good fight.

 

[kookbreaker]

Greene is relentless with the spin. Tuesday night she tweeted that Washington streets were deserted as a heavy police presence patrolled the city. Why? The Derek Chauvin verdict and fears the "domestic terrorist group" BLM were about to stage violent riots.

This plays into her base's prejudices and her supporters undoubtedly accept it -- and will endlessly repeat it to one another -- but not surprisingly, it wasn't true.


But if the streets weren't deserted, if the police presence was no more than on any other night, how does Greene rationalize lying about it? Undoubtedly, it's part of her effort to establish her 'brand' and solidify her base. It also has to do with fundraising, attracting donors. Below is a quote from her hometown newspaper, the Rome Georgia News-Tribune.


In looking at Greene's Twitter account she appears to have removed this particular tweet (like she has done with tweets so many times before) but of course, not before someone screen capped it.

Let us recall that in th GQP narrative the city of Portland was entirely on fire. Completely obliterated by rioting BLM and is still on fire to this day.

 

[Belz...]

I read some time ago an interview with a scientist who is working on developing computers with artificial intelligence. At one point the conversation veered off into climate change. The scientist -- who also has a degree in biology and has worked in that field -- said he thought 'the window' on avoiding future catastrophe had closed, it was already too late. That he fully expects by the end of this century extreme weather will end humankind's time on this planet. He said the problem that had emerged was, that while the scientific community had reached consensus the political community had proven unable to do so. He is convinced that flaw -- politicians who reject science and refuse to plan for the long term -- has already doomed humankind. He could have been talking about you-know-who.

Unfortunately he might be right. I don't think the species is going to disappear, but I don't expect we're going to mitigate climate change much, and there's going to be a "correction" in the ecosystem (95% reduction in population, loss of civilisation infrastructure, migrations, etc.)

I'd rather we manage to make it work, but in the end things will balance out as they will.

 

[dudalb]

I hope AOC does accept.

Occasio-Cortez comes prepared - armed with facts, figures, and a deep technical understanding of the ecology and the economics of the Green New Deal... MTG on the other hand took four days to read a 14-page document.

AOC will utterly demolish and humiliate Taylor-Greene... she will tear the "Jewish Space Lasers" idiot to shreds. MTG's only chance of coping will be to shout everything down and play pigeon chess. To that end, AOC will have to insist on some rules, for example a moderator who can turn off the debater's microphones if they won't shut up.

It reminds me somewhat of one of Dara O Briain's famous quips - AOC is the Professor of Dentistry, and MTG is the eejit who removes teeth with a string and a door.

I don't. No reason for AOC...whom incidently I am not a supporter of...to get into the gutter with MTG is a lame marketing scheme.

 

[dudalb]

Agreed.
Never wrestle with pigs. ...

Hans

"Never wrestle with a pig.You just get dirty and the pig likes it"

Lazarus Long. "Time Enough For Love".

 

[MRC_Hans]

Precisely. And so very apt, in this case.

I think many of us make this mistake: We think that sober facts can overcome deliberate nonsense. If only that were true, the world would be a MUCH better place.

Hans

 

[Stacyhs]

Absolutely. There is nothing to win in a debate with Greene. You debate people like that with facts and they will respond with idiocy, insults and conspiracy theories, then flounce off and declare themselves the winner. And their idiot followers will believe them.

Agreed. Case in point: the Clinton-Trump debates. Try reading the comment section in articles from the C-T debates where every credible reviewer gave the debates to Clinton.

 

[Blue Mountain]

"Never wrestle with a pig.You just get dirty and the pig likes it"

Lazarus Long. "Time Enough For Love".

There's also "Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." (Often attributed to Mark Twain, but its origins are murky.)

 

[eerok]

Yeah, any debate with MTG would be nothing more than a stunt. All the GOP has these days are stunts. It's pathetic.

 

[gypsyjackson]

Yeah, any debate with MTG would be nothing more than a stunt. All the GOP has these days are stunts. It's pathetic.

Good to see rhyming slang has made its way across the pond.

 

[eerok]

Good to see rhyming slang has made its way across the pond.

 

[abaddon]

Yeah, any debate with MTG would be nothing more than a stunt. All the GOP has these days are stunts. It's pathetic.

You left out the "cupid" term in there.