The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

[Norman Alexander]

I don't think so. Perhaps the GOP leadership (nationally and locally) are the actual elites but the people who actually vote GOP in large parts of the US are less well educated, poorer whites who want to return to the glory days of the 50's (not sure whether 1850's or 1950's) before the Yankees ruined it for everyone.


edited to add.....

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. If she becomes a celebrity within the party like Sarah Palin then IMO it's clear that the GOP leadership think she's a vote winner. If they bury her then the opposite is the case.

They are starting to bury her already.

 

[The Don]

They are starting to bury her already.

Are they though, really ?

They applauded her in the House and criticism is off the record from unnamed House Republicans. They seem to be burying her in the same way they've buried President Trump.

In 2022 the GOP will be reliant on the white supremacists, QAnon adherents and assorted others if they plan to retake the Senate and House. Marjorie Taylor Greene and her ilk will be key to courting those groups.

 

[smartcooky]

Are they though, really ?

They applauded her in the House and criticism is off the record from unnamed House Republicans. They seem to be burying her in the same way they've buried President Trump.

In 2022 the GOP will be reliant on the white supremacists, QAnon adherents and assorted others if they plan to retake the Senate and House. Marjorie Taylor Greene and her ilk will be key to courting those groups.

Those groups are already courted - preaching to the converted is not a winning strategy.

 

[pgwenthold]

Those groups are already courted - preaching to the converted is not a winning strategy.

Not necessarily. You have to get them to vote. If the candidate is not racist enough, they may stay home.

 

[JoeMorgue]

The GOP understands the value in having a court jester, someone who's already got something stupid to say to distract us all from any actual issue.

 

[jimbob]

The GOP understands the value in having a court jester, someone who's already got something stupid to say to distract us all from any actual issue.

Yup and she's also useful in trying to move the Overton Window

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I think MTG knows she is under FBI investigation for her role in Jan 6.
She is making the most of it while she still can.

 

[Babbylonian]

Those groups are already courted - preaching to the converted is not a winning strategy.

It is if you combine it with voter suppression measures.

 

[dudalb]

It is if you combine it with voter suppression measures.

In which case we are headed for Civil War 2.

 

[Norman Alexander]

I don't think so. Perhaps the GOP leadership (nationally and locally) are the actual elites but the people who actually vote GOP in large parts of the US are less well educated, poorer whites who want to return to the glory days of the 50's (not sure whether 1850's or 1950's) before the Yankees ruined it for everyone.


edited to add.....

I guess the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. If she becomes a celebrity within the party like Sarah Palin then IMO it's clear that the GOP leadership think she's a vote winner. If they bury her then the opposite is the case.

My correction. I was referring only to the GOP in Congress as being elites. As for the others, you are, of course, correct.

 

[Norman Alexander]

The GOP understands the value in having a court jester, someone who's already got something stupid to say to distract us all from any actual issue.

Given she is a GOP "public face", perhaps not so much. The Dems should really appreciate the damage she can do to the GOP if she is triggered. Friendly fire is still deadly.

 

[smartcooky]

This just popped up on my Reddit feed... I felt a need to share

 

[dudalb]

Given she is a GOP "public face", perhaps not so much. The Dems should really appreciate the damage she can do to the GOP if she is triggered. Friendly fire is still deadly.

I think the Dems do.
And, yeah,the problem with the MJG is a distraction theory is that she is a distrac tion that is doing damage to the GOP.

 

[smartcooky]

To justify what she is doing in attempting to disrupt the House procedures, she tweeted the following...

Marjorie Taylor Greene

@mtgreenee
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I ran for office (and was elected with 74.7% of the vote) to represent the people, not the politicians.

And that's exactly what I'm doing.

...and was immediately fact checked and owned by the Twitter community....

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1370009564519804934?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

- "You ran unopposed"

- "Imagine running unopposed and getting less than 3/4 of the vote"

- "Your opponent dropped out but yet still got 25%. I heard he was threatened - But Her Emails!!!!"

- "Let's clarify that she got 74.7% of the vote, while she ran unopposed"

- "What an accomplishment! Not everyone can win an uncontested race where their opponent drops out and still receives 25% of the vote."

- "No one ran against you and I'm pretty sure when they start questioning you all about 1/6/2021, no one will want anything to do with you."

- "A) you ran unopposed - B) you ran as a republican in an extremely red district

- "Imagine thinking that getting 75 percent of the vote in that case is a good thing."

- "You moved from #GA6 to #GA14 because you knew that Lucy McBath was going to beat you in district you lived in"

- "You moved into a new district because you couldn't win in yours "​

OMG, facts can be such a pain in the ass when you are trying to deceive people by lying through your teeth!

 

[grunion]

Looks like the Guamian delegation fortunaely has a sense of humor.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, will be receiving cookies from Guam's delegate to Congress after the freshmen congresswoman inaccurately suggested that the island territory is a foreign land, when it's actually been part of the U.S. for more than a century.

Greene made the remark during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) last month, but a video of the remarks were uploaded on Tuesday drawing new attention to her inaccurate statement.

"I wanted to take my regular, normal person, normal, everyday American values, which is: We love our country. We believe our hard-earned tax dollars should just go for America—not for what, China, Russia, the Middle East, Guam—whatever, wherever," the GOP lawmaker said.

...

"Congresswoman Greene is a new member, and we will be paying a visit to her and delivering delicious Chamorro Chip Cookies as part of our ongoing outreach to new members to introduce them to our wonderful island of Guam," Michael San Nicolas, Guam's congressional delegate, told the Daily Post.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Given she is a GOP "public face", perhaps not so much. The Dems should really appreciate the damage she can do to the GOP if she is triggered. Friendly fire is still deadly.

Yeah let's give the GOP more rope to hang themselves because that's worked so well all the other times we tried and never once backfired.

 

[kookbreaker]

Yeah let's give the GOP more rope to hang themselves because that's worked so well all the other times we tried and never once backfired.

This. It sounds a lot like the “ Oh yes please let Trump run for President. He’ll devastate the GOP!!” You heard in 2015/16.

 

[Craig4]

What has Marjorie Greene done to defend second amendment rights? She'd have an answer for that one. Below is a quote from her congressional website:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say her bookcases are probably not straining under the weight of tomes on political theory.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Yeah let's give the GOP more rope to hang themselves because that's worked so well all the other times we tried and never once backfired.

Indeed.

This culture war clowning that MTG is doing might make libs mock her, but it is absolutely effective messaging for the reactionary base. The party is going to keep pushing harder on the message of grievance politics. It's all they really have left, and it's a proven winner for them.

Sparring with the libs over tedious culture wars issues is good politics for the right wing. It works very well to boost their voting base.

 

[Pacal]

Indeed.

This culture war clowning that MTG is doing might make libs mock her, but it is absolutely effective messaging for the reactionary base. The party is going to keep pushing harder on the message of grievance politics. It's all they really have left, and it's a proven winner for them.

Sparring with the libs over tedious culture wars issues is good politics for the right wing. It works very well to boost their voting base.

You are absolutely right. It has been c. 30 years since the latest of these Culture Wars have started. C. 1990 we began the latest - the so called war over PC and very swiftly attacking PC became very, very PC especially among so-called Conservatives. And this particular incarnation of culture wars has not stopped since.

The whining and belly aching from the anti-PC PCers has never stopped. Their love of portraying themselves has victims, their writhing in convulsions of hysteria over the latest PC outrage has not stopped. Their embrace of victimhood, along with them being triggered and such utter snowflakes has if anything accelerated.

Thus we get the recently the writhing in existential agony of these so-called conservatives over the "cancelation" by "woke" and "cancel culture" of certain books by the company that owns the rights to publish Dr. Seuss' books. Oh the censorship! Oh the totalitarian suppression!! Oh the crushing of free speech!!! Oh the outrage!!!! We hear the writhing in utter horror of Kevin McCarthy about this intolerable outrage! And of course now Kevin McCarthy is a-ok with Trump!

And of course all of this is, apparently, a much more serious threat to freedom and democracy than the events of January 6th 2021. And of course bowing once again to the most holy and divine Trump is a-ok!! Why? Because we all "know" PC, cancel culture, woke is a vastly greater threat to democracy and freedom than Trump's campaign of lies since the November election, or his pressure on officials to find the "real" votes, or the January 6th insurrection, or the fact that because of this propaganda of lies many tens of millions of Americans now believe the election of November 2020 is fraudulent. Allied with this is the fact that much of the leadership of the Republican party is now, at least, going along with this utterly false idea and thus encouraging this false belief. And we should not forget the renewed campaign to suppress votes because the last election got the "wrong" results!

But nope we shouldn't think about the above, we should instead writhe in horror at the dangerous excesses etc., of PC, woke and cancel culture which are the "real" threats. (Along with someone deciding not to translate a book of poetry.) Obviously (snark) people should know what the "real" threat is.

The culture wars, cancel culture, PC and woke are being used to distract attention from one of the most sustained attacks on American Democracy ever.