The Laverty PGF track photos.

SweatyYeti said:
Well, I seriously doubt that Roger would have faked a trackway...using a 'grab bag' of various, assorted footprint casts. ;)
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Fail...

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Don't you just love the flexibility seen in the toe patterns of those footprints of Patty's, kitty?? :D
 
I don't see much toe flexibility, Sweaty. My toes move all over the place when I walk over rough ground, they don't stay in exactly the same formation. They spread out when I push off with them, fairly wide. My little toe frequently moves enough when pushing off, that it almost doesn't show in the track.

All I see are toes in the same rigid formation, all right next to each other.

EDIT: Rough ground, not just ground. If I just stroll along a beach, all my tracks look pretty much identical, including toe positions.
 
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Wait, are they claiming all of these casts came from Patty? Even the ones that are completely different sizes?

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LTC8K6 said:
Yes, those are supposedly the casts Titmus made from the Patty "trackway".
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Well we know in the lower portion, Dr. Meldrum's assistant scaled the feet, so they would match up.
I asked him about this very thing, he answered as follows:

Its to be expected that the succession of tracks left by an animate pair of feet would vary in length depending on the conditions of each step. Differences in roll of the foot, depth of impression, aging of the print, etc. all must be taken into consideration. When you allow for the overflow of plaster the disparities are not great at all and certainly not disconcerting. These are casts of footprints, not casts of feet, afterall.

The technician who composited the scanned images scaled them to uniform length for ease of formatting. I was not concerned because I was most interested in variation in shape reflecting the animation of the step.
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LTC8K6 said:
Yes, I only asked sweaty to remind him that the prints/casts actually wouldn't match the way he did them.
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At least as far as the two footprints I put together into an AG, are concerned......they were, in actual fact, the same length......as seen in the image that kitakaze posted, earlier...


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LTC8K6 wrote:
I don't see much toe flexibility, Sweaty. My toes move all over the place when I walk over rough ground, they don't stay in exactly the same formation.
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In the two-print animated-gif I posted....there is some flexibility/movement between the toes. That movement effectively rules out the use of rigid 'plaster casts', as a means of making those footprints.
 
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SweatyYeti said:
At least as far as the two footprints I put together into an AG, are concerned......they were, in actual fact, the same length......as seen in the image that kitakaze posted, earlier...
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Congratulations. It has no effect on the fact that the shape and the size of many the prints make it impossible to be one animal. Nor does it deal with the fact that Roger was there before October and undeniably there was BF track hoaxing there. Oops for you.
 
kitakaze said:
I love the different sizes and actual shapes of the foot that make it impossible to come from one animal.
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Jeff Meldrum wrote:

Its to be expected that the succession of tracks left by an animate pair of feet would vary in length depending on the conditions of each step. Differences in roll of the foot, depth of impression, aging of the print, etc. all must be taken into consideration. When you allow for the overflow of plaster the disparities are not great at all and certainly not disconcerting.

These are casts of footprints, not casts of feet, afterall.
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LOL Even if we spot you the large length differences from sliding, it doesn't change the fact you can't significantly alter the shape of the sole of your foot such as where it connects to your toes. Oops for you.
 
At least as far as the two footprints I put together into an AG, are concerned......they were, in actual fact, the same length......as seen in the image that kitakaze posted, earlier...
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Ummm....yeah, and I asked you why they were the same length...

Didin't I?

Or was that Twilight Zone music I heard.

Why were they the same length, sweaty?
 
It appears that the actual shape of the foot is different in the two casts. (It is not correct to say that the toes move. Making a gif does not make toes move. It simply compares casts.) This to me is suspicious for hoaxing. Clearly enormous tracks of that depth and area could not have been made simply by stomping. There had to have been some digging, following by stomping.
 
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parnassus said:
It appears that the actual shape of the foot is different in the two casts. (It is not correct to say that the toes move. Making a gif does not make toes move. It simply compares casts.) This to me is suspicious for hoaxing. Clearly enormous tracks of that depth and area could not have been made simply by stomping. There had to have been some digging, following by stomping.
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I was thinking of a gadget like this. with a Sledge hammer handled built right into the concrete cast.
You could step right on it with both feet and rock back and forth
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parnassus wrote:
It is not correct to say that the toes move.
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And the beat goes on...:)
 
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