The Laverty PGF track photos.

Daniel Perez on BFF said:
According to Lyle Laverty, with whom I did a taped interview in 1991 or 1992, he took six slides, but presumably the other three were not of tracks in the ground. His skepticism, as noted by Dr. David Daegling, is simply what he read in Bigfoot At Bluff Creek. Laverty went on to say, something along the lines that he was skeptical because he was there all Summer long, and then all of sudden Patterson comes in and BANG, gets the movie of the century.
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Other three? We have seen four Laverty pics now. But we really want to see all of them...originals please.
 
Denver Post 2001

Laverty says the film site was so close to a logging road that he still worries the film might somehow have been faked.
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These are relative terms and don't necessarily mean that the Patty tracks were visible from the logging road.
 
Patterson said he had poured a practice cast several days before Oct. 20, I believe. Does anyone have a source for that?
 
And those tracks are from a 2000 lb Ladyfoot. Those look exactly as if made in the manner that Howard Heironimus described watching Patterson do. Using existing casts and putting weight on them to give them depth.
 
William Parcher said:
Those tracks were on the logging road. Patty's tracks were on a sandbar way off to the side of the road. They were probably not visible if you just glanced out the side of the crew truck. Laverty may have driven past the sandbar multiple times and never saw the tracks way out there in the distance. It looks like the creek berm might hide the whole scene unless you happen to actually walk right up to it.

These are among other questions I want KKZ to ask Laverty.
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Got it. I will try contacting Laverty either Sunday or early next week. Please make a list of questions for me to incorporate in the interview, or at least your main issues in point form.
 
This may already be out there, but with the recent discussion I am confused..

Were the prints photographed by Laverty, in the creek bed ? ( the ( alleged ) pathway taken by Bob, the subject in the film )
 
seems to me that Laverty said that he was told about the tracks by McCoy at Orleans on Monday morning, so it wasn't like Laverty just stumbled on them...he knew where to look. Patterson had made sure the word was out by blabbing to McCoy and Hodgson on the 20th.
Please kit ask Laverty if he had heard anything from McCoy about Patterson having any casts with him, or telling about any casts, on Oct. 20. Again, the point being, were the casts that Patterson displayed, made well before Oct. 20, so that on Oct. 20, they already back in Yakima? and that was why no one (?) saw them on Oct. 20.
 
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But you'd need precise directions to find the spot if the tracks aren't visible from the road.

Saying they are on a Bluff Creek sandbar isn't good enough, even for Laverty, who knew the area.

One way that I can see Laverty easily finding the spot, is if he had already seen the film, and recognized the spot, having been there just a few days before.

Or if he'd seen where Roger and Bob were camped, and had seen their horse trails, or had in fact run into them...

So, that would be one question I'd have. How did Laverty know where to look for Patty's PGF tracks?

Titmus had quite a bit of trouble finding them, and he also knew the area, and had seen the film.
 
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not so big

LTC8K6 said:
Okay, I have cleared up the big shadow problem. In a clearer version of the pic, oriented as though it's a left foot, I can see that the shadow is a pipe, placed there for scale.

However we still have longer shadows in one than the other.

[qimg]http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/uploads/FilmsiteTracks1.jpg[/qimg]
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Either that's a very large pipe or a very, very normal-sized footprint.
 
There were two roads running by the film site.
One was a pretty major forest road, to the west of the creek, about a thousand feet up. This road collapsed and is defunct x many years (Thank you, Ray Wallace and the other contractors who got rich). The other was a little road that branched off that main road below the film site and crossed the creek via a little bridge near Notice Creek. This was the road on the east side of the creek that P and G were supposedly riding up when the naked beast with the clothed man inside appeared.
 
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kitakaze said:
And those tracks are from a 2000 lb Ladyfoot. Those look exactly as if made in the manner that Howard Heironimus described watching Patterson do. Using existing casts and putting weight on them to give them depth.
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Plaster casts are kinda 'rigid'....aren't they??


Here are Titmus' casts of Patty's right foot....put together into an animated-gif...



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Since the first two footprints are very similar...I put them into their own animated-gif.....and made one fade into the other...


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It looks to me like there's a little too much variation in the toe patterns for the impressions to have been made by rock-solid plaster.
 
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Laverty's?

Why are they all the same length, sweaty?

Hasn't it been established that the casts are actually of different lengths?

What they don't look like is casts of prints made by the same set of feet.
 
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Here's a slightly different alignment of those two footprints....(with the 'fade' going both ways)...



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LTC8K6 said:
Laverty's?
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I corrected that mistake. :)



Why are they all the same length, sweaty?
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These images were taken directly from that large image you posted, back on the 20th....of the collection of 10 casts.



Hasn't it been established that the casts are actually of different lengths?
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I've heard rumors around, to that effect.




What they don't look like is casts of prints made by the same set of feet.
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Well, I seriously doubt that Roger would have faked a trackway...using a 'grab bag' of various, assorted footprint casts. ;)
 
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