The Jan. 6 Investigation

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Warp12 said:
Ok, but obviously untrue. But you still can't seem to admit that it is ultra-partisan, now. Why is that?
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Because it is just not true.
Examine why you need it to be partisan, given that you keep reminding us that you aren't a Trump supporter.
Is it because admitting that your party actively supported the insurrection cannot be allowed to be revealed by an objective investigation?
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
Because it is just not true.
Examine why you need it to be partisan, given that you keep reminding us that you aren't a Trump supporter.
Is it because admitting that your party actively supported the insurrection cannot be allowed to be revealed by an objective investigation?
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My party? I have no party affiliation. I generally lean right, but do not rally behind all Republican causes.

How can some label a committee of mainly Dems non-partisan? Do you do the same for the SCOTUS?

Of course not. This is becoming ridiculous.
 
Someone from the party of 1/2 Benghazi commissions is complaining about partisanship. Excess irony must erode one’s sense of shame.
 
Warp12 said:
My party? I have no party affiliation. I generally lean right, but do not rally behind all Republican causes.

How can some label a committee of mainly Dems non-partisan? Do you do the same for the SCOTUS?

Of course not. This is becoming ridiculous.
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You are clearly partisan, as all your posts show. And because of your mindset, you assume that everyone else is exactly the same way. It's a typical Republican thing:" we try to hurt Liberals any way we can, so naturally that's what they must be doing, too". It's what's causing this self-harming by anti-vaxxers who cannot believe that the people they despise might actually have their best interest at heart.

But plenty of things in Congress are not partisan, but fact driven.
And you have not given a single example of any action by the Jan 6th commission doing anything that is not fact driven.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
You are clearly partisan, as all your posts show. And because of your mindset, you assume that everyone else is exactly the same way. It's a typical Republican thing:" we try to hurt Liberals any way we can, so naturally that's what they must be doing, too". It's what's causing this self-harming by anti-vaxxers who cannot believe that the people they despise might actually have their best interest at heart.

But plenty of things in Congress are not partisan, but fact driven.
And you have not given a single example of any action by the Jan 6th commission doing anything that is not fact driven.
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Damn, you needed to to invoke an anti-vaxxer reference to avoid admitting the truth about the partisan nature of this committee.

Zany stuff.
 
Warp12 said:
Damn, you needed to to invoke an anti-vaxxer reference to avoid admitting the truth about the partisan nature of this committee.

Zany stuff.
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False premise.

I have to admit nothing until you demonstrate any partisanship action on part of the Committee. Your only evidence is that it got started by Democrats, which in and of itself is not evidence of partisan behavior for anyone but a Democrat-hater.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
False premise.

I have to admit nothing until you demonstrate any partisanship action on part of the Committee. Your only evidence is that it got started by Democrats, which in and of itself is not evidence of partisan behavior for anyone but a Democrat-hater.
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Infact if you think about it Mitch McConnell started this Comitee and I believe he secretly wants it to get rid of his Trump Probem.
 
Warp12 said:
[snip] ...and two "Republicans" who broke solidarity with the party. Might as well be all Dems on the committee. How would you view the validity if it were all Republicans?
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I've been thinking about this argument. I can't say I know much about Adam Kinzinger, but how could Liz Cheney be anything other than a Republican? I don't recall the exact number but she has over a 90% record of voting with Trump on issues. Many of her fellow Republicans were saying the same thing she was on the day of January 6, before walking them back later. She's the daughter of the most powerful Republican VP that I can recall. She's been a member of the Republican Party longer than Trump.

The only way you could argue she is not a Republican is if a defining attribute of being a Republican is (almost) unwavering loyalty to Donald Trump, in which case, the Republicans are no longer a political party.
 
Warp12 said:
There is no "goal-post shifting", as my question was posed earlier, in response to Upchurch's post.

A non-partisan effort would look like something other than 7 Dems, and 2 "Republicans" that broke party solidarity.

Why can't you admit that the current committee is partisan? Just say, "Yeah, it is a bogus and partisan investigation, primarily designed to further Dem political goals."

Is that so hard? Own it.

If you can't admit the full truth, just say, "Yes, it is obviously a highly partisan effort."
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Ah, fresh, fragrant horse ****.
 
What interesting logic.

"There need to be Republicans on the committee in order to offset, or counter partisanship."

"Those Republicans on the committee broke ranks, so they're all of the same partisan stripe!"

Makes you wonder what fraction would have to be Repubs in order that the Right accept "bi-partisanship" as a qualifier. A Bill is often touted as having bi-partisan support if just a couple or few percent of the opposition are in agreement.

But then I suppose any Repub members who would seek the truth are indeed "breaking ranks." To the Right, the only acceptable committe makeup, if there must be one, would be dominated by Quislings and toadies to run interference in service of the Big Lie and the Bigger Loser.
 
Warp's argument that the January 6th committee is hyper-partisan is really absurd and frankly obscene. The problem isn't the partisanship of the committee. It's the partisanship of the Republican party.

Warp basically admits this in his premise that two Republicans broke ranks to participate on the committee. "Broke ranks" mean that these two Republicans aren't engaged in partisanship. In fact, both seem to have no problem opposing the infrastructure bill and almost every other Democratic priority. Liz Cheney is no Democrat in disguise.

The Republicans know their problem and are doing everything they can as a party to bury their problem. At least 140 Republican members of House and Senate to one degree or another were involved in the January 6th Coup d Etat. They have no desire to get to the bottom of what happened on January. Far too many would go to jail or have their careers ended.

Lest Warp forget. The Republicans were allowed originally to participate in a perfectly balanced committee (6 Republicans, 6 Democrats) where both Republicans and Democrats had the power of subpoena. And the Republicans after first supporting the idea refused and opposed a committee.
 
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Trolls would have us to believe both

A) Fair and balanced jury is made up of 6 people who already think the defend is guilty and 6 people who already think the defendant is innocent and all of whom have declared that nothing will change their mind.

B) That if all the actual facts (those pesky things again) point to the defendant being guilty, then point A) becomes even more important.
 
Lurch said:
Makes you wonder what fraction would have to be Repubs in order that the Right accept "bi-partisanship" as a qualifier.
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Why would they ever accept it? They're only using it as a red herring to delegitimize any results the committee finds. They'll keep howling about how unfair it all is right up until they get another chance to stick the knife in.
 
Again it's a flex. A dare.

They know they lost. They want that fact to just not matter anymore.

And with each passing day the subtext becomes the text more and more.
 
Warp12 said:
My party? I have no party affiliation. I generally lean right, but do not rally behind all Republican causes.
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But you come here and parrot right wing bull **** talking points nonetheless.

This charade is so laughably transparent it's beggars belief that you continue to perpetuate it.
 
johnny karate said:
But you come here and parrot right wing bull **** talking points nonetheless.

This charade is so laughably transparent it's beggars belief that you continue to perpetuate it.
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I always love when they pretend. No, that's not me. Never mind that every post of theirs is GOP, Trumpist bull crap.

It's like Jim Jordan trying to pretend he's not a lying turd that had nothing to do with the attempted coup.
 
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