The Jan. 6 Investigation

[Ladewig]

Is it just me or would the Republican Jan 6th sound bites make great song titles?

“We Need to Move On”
“No One Wants to Talk About That Anymore”
“Zero Threat”
“Hugging and Kissing the Police”
“The Dems will Politicize It”
“For the Hundredth Time, False Flag”
“Whatabout, Whatabout, Whatabout”
“Fake News, FAKE NEWS”
“No One can Tell Me Why an Investigation is Necessary”

 

[tyr_13]

Is it just me or would the Republican Jan 6th sound bites make great song titles?

“We Need to Move On”
“No One Wants to Talk About That Anymore”
“Zero Threat”
“Hugging and Kissing the Police”
“The Dems will Politicize It”
“For the Hundredth Time, False Flag”
“Whatabout, Whatabout, Whatabout”
“Fake News, FAKE NEWS”
“No One can Tell Me Why an Investigation is Necessary”

"No One Can Tell Me Why an investigation is Necessary by My Chemical Romance" - by Panic! At the Disco

 

[Stacyhs]

Is it just me or would the Republican Jan 6th sound bites make great song titles?

“We Need to Move On”
“No One Wants to Talk About That Anymore”
“Zero Threat”
“Hugging and Kissing the Police”
“The Dems will Politicize It”
“For the Hundredth Time, False Flag”
“Whatabout, Whatabout, Whatabout”
“Fake News, FAKE NEWS”
“No One can Tell Me Why an Investigation is Necessary”

Definitely Country music titles!

"They Were Real Patriots!"
"They Did Nothing Wrong"
"Undercover Antifa!"
"It Wasn't an Armed Insurrection"
"We Were Following Orders"

 

[jimbob]

Definitely Country music titles!

"They Were Real Patriots!"
"They Did Nothing Wrong"
"Undercover Antifa!"
"It Wasn't an Armed Insurrection"
"We Were Following Orders"

“No One can Tell Me Why an Investigation is Necessary”

Has to be an 80*'s power ballad



*Referring to the median IQ of the protesters

 

[Stacyhs]

A woman who said she was looking for Pelosi "to shoot her in the face" has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of unlawful protest. She said she was "just kidding". Yeah...all those idiots breaking into the Capitol and attacking officers were 'just kidding'. She wasn't charged with threatening Pelosi because she was in the act of leaving the Capitol when she said it and that would make it more difficult to prove it was a serious threat.

 

[Ziggurat]

A woman who said she was looking for Pelosi "to shoot her in the face" has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor of unlawful protest. She said she was "just kidding". Yeah...all those idiots breaking into the Capitol and attacking officers were 'just kidding'. She wasn't charged with threatening Pelosi because she was in the act of leaving the Capitol when she said it and that would make it more difficult to prove it was a serious threat.

Of course it was an empty threat. That's been obvious from the start. She's an idiot, but there's no evidence she even had a gun. You can be sure that if there was any evidence of that, she would be facing a weapons charge too.

 

[Stacyhs]

Of course it was an empty threat. That's been obvious from the start. She's an idiot, but there's no evidence she even had a gun. You can be sure that if there was any evidence of that, she would be facing a weapons charge too.

Obvious? No. There is also no evidence she didn't have a gun which we know several of the insurrectionists did. There is no telling what she would have done if she had been able to find Pelosi. But you go on minimizing what these jerks did. Maybe she was only "joking"?

 

[Stacyhs]

Congressional subpoenas have been issued to 12 organizers of the Jan. 6 rally.

 

[Upchurch]

Of course it was an empty threat. That's been obvious from the start. She's an idiot, but there's no evidence she even had a gun. You can be sure that if there was any evidence of that, she would be facing a weapons charge too.

Obvious? No. There is also no evidence she didn't have a gun which we know several of the insurrectionists did. There is no telling what she would have done if she had been able to find Pelosi. But you go on minimizing what these jerks did. Maybe she was only "joking"?

Agreed. IIRC, this is the woman who entered the building through a broken window and was actively looking for Pelosi with stated plans to kill her, correct? What is obviously empty about that? If she’d said the same thing talking to her friends on her back porch during a cookout, that would have obviously been an empty threat. Someone breaking into your place of work and saying they want to put a bullet in your head is objectively a more serious and credible statement. They’ve taken at least some of the necessary actions to enact that threat.

 

[Ziggurat]

Obvious? No. There is also no evidence she didn't have a gun which we know several of the insurrectionists did.

I bet she doesn’t even own a gun. The FBI would likely have detailed any guns she owned, if she did. After all, they even detailed Lego sets owned by people they are prosecuting in their indictments.

There is no telling what she would have done if she had been able to find Pelosi.

If she found Pelosi? She never even went looking.

But you go on minimizing what these jerks did. Maybe she was only "joking"?

Joke is probably the wrong word. More likely empty bravado.

 

[Ziggurat]

Agreed. IIRC, this is the woman who entered the building through a broken window and was actively looking for Pelosi with stated plans to kill her, correct?

Incorrect. She never went past the area she entered, which can hardly be termed searching for anyone. And her threat was made after leaving the building.

 

[Upchurch]

Incorrect. She never went past the area she entered, which can hardly be termed searching for anyone. And her threat was made after leaving the building.

But she entered the building through a window and wanted to kill Pelosi. Do you think she only thought of the murder part after she had already left?

Come on, Zig. You wear your partisan blinders with pride, but you aren’t that naive.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Incorrect. She never went past the area she entered, which can hardly be termed searching for anyone. And her threat was made after leaving the building.

Everyone who Entered that building did so in attempt to commit criminal acts inside.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Congressional subpoenas have been issued to 12 organizers of the Jan. 6 rally.

Good now just hope they rat on the rest as rats do.

 

[Ziggurat]

Everyone who Entered that building did so in attempt to commit criminal acts inside.

Perhaps. But again, zero evidence that specific woman was ever an actual safety threat to Pelosi. And the FBI isn’t contending that she was either.

 

[Ziggurat]

But she entered the building through a window and wanted to kill Pelosi.

She entered in through a window. We do not know she actually wanted to kill Pelosi.

Are you really unfamiliar with the idea that people make threats they have no interest in actually carrying out?

Do you think she only thought of the murder part after she had already left?

Like I said, I doubt this woman even owns a gun. So yeah, if she went in unarmed, then I’m pretty sure she didn’t go in planning to shoot anyone. Bragging about doing what you don’t even have the capability to do is very much the sort of thing stupid people do on the spur of the moment.

Come on, Zig. You wear your partisan blinders with pride, but you aren’t that naive.

You have stretched this far beyond what even the FBI is claiming. You have invented a whole narrative for which there isn’t any real evidence. And I’m being partisan and naive?

This woman is an idiot, not an attempted murderer.

 

[Upchurch]

She entered in through a window. We do not know she actually wanted to kill Pelosi.

She literally said she wanted to put a bullet in Pelosi’s head (or was it her face?)

Are you really unfamiliar with the idea that people make threats they have no interest in actually carrying out?

Sure, people do that. They typically aren’t the people climbing in through broken windows to where their potential victims currently are during the corse of making those threats.

Like I said, I doubt this woman even owns a gun.

Your opinion means little.

You have invented a whole narrative for which there isn’t any real evidence.

So have you, in case you hadn’t noticed. Your confirmation bias is set on high.

 

[Ziggurat]

She literally said she wanted to put a bullet in Pelosi’s head (or was it her face?)

Like I said, lots of people make empty threats all the time. It's a pretty normal thing.

Sure, people do that. They typically aren’t the people climbing in through broken windows to where their potential victims currently are during the corse of making those threats.

Pelosi wasn't near that broken window. And again, she made the threat AFTER leaving, so there's no "in the course of making those threats" involved.

Your opinion means little.

And yours does?

The FBI does not contend that she intended to carry out her threat. They do not contend she was even capable of carrying it out. Yet you have concluded she did and she was. Confirmation bias indeed.

 

[Upchurch]

Like I said, lots of people make empty threats all the time. It's a pretty normal thing.

Only if you completely ignore the context in which the threat was made. Which you are.

Pelosi wasn't near that broken window. And again, she made the threat AFTER leaving, so there's no "in the course of making those threats" involved.

She recorded it at the site during the attack on the Capitol. Pelosi was a heck of a lot closer to that broken window than she was to anywhere one usually makes empty threats.

If an unknown person were to break into your office building during a time when you were there and be heard to say, "I'm going to find and kill Ziggurat!" as they left. Would you consider that to be merely an empty threat?

And yours does?

It is not an opinion that we do not know if she was armed when she broke into the Capitol building. It is a statement of fact until more evidence immerges. You are the one dismissing her threat solely because of your beliefs.

The FBI does not contend that she intended to carry out her threat. They do not contend she was even capable of carrying it out.

They are not able to provide evidence that she intended to carry it out beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. That's not quite the same thing.

Yet you have concluded she did and she was. Confirmation bias indeed.

I contend her threat was credible. As someone who deals with security of a different kind (and certainly not with the life-and-death stakes), the safest approach when someone breaks into a building and says they want to kill someone in side is to believe them. They're failure to follow through does not mean her intent had not been genuine at the time or that she was not a risk.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

There is no evidence that the people who shouted "hang Mike Pence" ever intended to cause him harm.