The Jan. 6 Investigation

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SuburbanTurkey said:
If it makes you feel better, the crackpot legal defense is undoubtedly making her experience with the justice system much more punitive than it otherwise would be.

Other similarly charged J6 CHUDs have already plead out to sentences that do not include prison time, and this lady has managed to talk herself into pretrial detention.

She's giving herself totally avoidable jail time.
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It does.
 
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Warp12 said:
What positives, such as security changes, have come out of the 1/6 event?
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Another positive is a realization of the political and social danger that that side of the political spectrum poses to our democracy.
 
the biggest positive coming out of the 1/6 Coup is that law enforcement and the press are no longer shy about calling out right-extremist violence for what it is.
 
Paul2 said:
Another positive is a realization of the political and social danger that that side of the political spectrum poses to our democracy.
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The Great Zaganza the biggest positive coming out of the 1/6 Coup is that law enforcement and the press are no longer shy about calling out right-extremist violence for what it is.
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Ha...now watch all your reasoning fall apart when Warp 12 brings in his devastating eye roll. You are lucky e hasn't deployed his laughing dog.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
the biggest positive coming out of the 1/6 Coup is that law enforcement and the press are no longer shy about calling out right-extremist violence for what it is.
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Is that the case though?

Fascist rallies have been occurring with regularity on the west coast at full pace ever since Jan 6. Local cops remain enablers, and local press and politicians are still quite restrained in their coverage.

There seems to be somewhat of a consensus that the Jan6 riot was bad and motivated by extreme-right politics, but little interest in exploring this problem more broadly. The Jan6 riot is often treated as an anomalous event, which it absolutely is not.
 
Susheel said:
Ha...now watch all your reasoning fall apart when Warp 12 brings in his devastating eye roll. You are lucky e hasn't deployed his laughing dog.
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I had my own eye roll at Warp's use of the word 'event' as in "the Jan 6 event". Not 'riot', not 'insurrection', but 'event'.
It's interesting that he hasn't been back since asking his question and getting several answers. Somehow, I don't think they were the answers he was expecting...or wanted.
 
The Jan 6 Committee has issued its first subpoenas to Mark Meadows, Dan Scavino, Steve Bannon and Kash Patel. All of them were directly communicating with Trump on Jan. 6. Expect them to ignore the subpoenas.
 
Stacyhs said:
The Jan 6 Committee has issued its first subpoenas to Mark Meadows, Dan Scavino, Steve Bannon and Kash Patel. All of them were directly communicating with Trump on Jan. 6. Expect them to ignore the subpoenas.
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If they ignore the subpoenas, then it will be time for the Dems to stop playing nicely. Now that they have the power of govenrment, they need to issue arrest warrants if the witnesses refuse to come testify, then have them brought before the committee in handcuffs if necessary.

I know darned well that is any ordinary citizen were to ignore a subpoena, that is precisely what would happen to them. Why should these bastards be any different?
 
smartcooky said:
If they ignore the subpoenas, then it will be time for the Dems to stop playing nicely. Now that they have the power of govenrment, they need to issue arrest warrants if the witnesses refuse to come testify, then have them brought before the committee in handcuffs if necessary.

I know darned well that is any ordinary citizen were to ignore a subpoena, that is precisely what would happen to them. Why should these bastards be any different?
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Agreed. Donnie has already said they will fight the subpoenas on Executive Privilege which is not surprising. It's not clear if this argument will work for a former president.
 
Depends on the Courts.
But the DOJ has already established that the Jan 6 rally was a campaign event (which is why they won't defend what's-his-face).
That means that is not protected by executive privilege.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Depends on the Courts.
But the DOJ has already established that the Jan 6 rally was a campaign event (which is why they won't defend what's-his-face).
That means that is not protected by executive privilege.
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What the Committee really wants to know is what was said and done by Trump before the rally and after he'd gone back to the WH as the riot was occurring.
 
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What the Committee really wants to know is what was said and done by Trump before the rally and after he'd gone back to the WH as the riot was occurring.
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If it's in regard to the rally z that should be fair game for the Committee.
But I expect that it will have to get litigated.
 
dudalb said:
And it won't work, you know the stuff in the papers Biden will not shield will be leaked.
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I wouldn't be so sure of that re the court stalling.

Bennie Thompson has already said they would be looking at filing contempt charges if the subpoenas are ignored but the DOJ would have to get involved then. Biden is not going to interfere with the DOJ the way Trump did.

This is funny:

Trump promised to use powers he once wielded as president to "fight" the subpoenas, while suggesting that the 1/6 committee should issue subpoenas to "Antifa" and Black Lives Matter—two loosely organized, decentralized groups that were not involved in the January 6 insurrection.
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What a maroon!
 
In an MSNBC interview of Rep Jamie Raskin by Chris Hayes this afternoon, on the Bannan, Meadows, Patel and Scavino subpoenas...

"They're thinking that we're the pre-Donald Trump Democratic Party; we're the post-Donald Trump Democratic party... we understand every game and gimmick the Republicans like to play, and we're not going to show them that kind of respect any more. We're not going to give them weeks and months to play games and not turn stuff in. We want something from them; they're going to turn it over. We’re going to subpoena them, they’re going to follow the law. That’s it. If any of them think they are going to be able to slither away from this, they should be wondering about the information we’ve already got within our possession, in the committee"

I really do hope the worm has turned here.
 
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So…even more strongly-worded letters and sarcastic clapping before rolling over for the Republicans?
 
smartcooky said:
In an MSNBC interview of Rep Jamie Raskin by Chris Hayes this afternoon, on the Bannan, Meadows, Patel and Scavino subpoenas...

"They're thinking that we're the pre-Donald Trump Democratic Party; we're the post-Donald Trump Democratic party... we understand every game and gimmick the Republicans like to play, and we're not going to show them that kind of respect any more. We're not going to give them weeks and months to play games and not turn stuff in. We want something from them; they're going to turn it over. We’re going to subpoena them, they’re going to follow the law. That’s it. If any of them think they are going to be able to slither away from this, they should be wondering about the information we’ve already got within our possession, in the committee"

I really do hope the worm has turned here.
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Not seeing much sign o fit, since the Dems have gone back to fighting each other more then the GOP.....
 
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