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Ed The Hurricane [or Tropical Storm] Harvey Thread

A Texas official has a stark suggestion: "If you stay, write your social security number on your arm."
 
MikeG said:
Keep your head down, all forum Texans. Hope you're all OK through this one.
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If you get that thirty inches of rain, I think it'll be more important to keep your heads up.

Or better still, get your heads (and the rest of you) the **** out of there.
 
Vixen said:
There were some guys interviewed who said they were too poor to evacuate. Just get the hell outta there, is my take.
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This just isn't possible for many.

Hell, my wife and I are working class and have two cars, but we'd never in a million years be able to afford to go stay in a hotel for weeks. There are plenty of people lower than us on the socioeconomic ladder, and I am sure many would have even fewer options.

I don't really know what I'd do. We'd probably grab the dog and get in the car, but that would represent the beginning of our problems, not the end.
 
Only about 8% of hurricane deaths occur because of the winds. All the others drown. The prediction is a 13' storm surge and the sea will invade the land for miles.
 
Rockport is getting clobbered with wind and water. All the climate information and forecasts and maps are boiled down to the current NWS statement, "TAKE COVER NOW!"
 
Varanid said:
This just isn't possible for many.

Hell, my wife and I are working class and have two cars, but we'd never in a million years be able to afford to go stay in a hotel for weeks. There are plenty of people lower than us on the socioeconomic ladder, and I am sure many would have even fewer options.

I don't really know what I'd do. We'd probably grab the dog and get in the car, but that would represent the beginning of our problems, not the end.
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Easy for me to say since I've never been in the situation, but I'd probably just drive someplace outside of the danger zone and sleep in the car if I had to. No idea what I'd do if I lacked access to transportation during an event like this.
 
Beerina said:
I don't know about that issue. I recall under Clinton, FEMA choked and flopped around, and it turned out the head was an appointee as a political reward. Congress swore never again....
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Talk about false memories. :rolleyes:

George H Bush screwed up the response to Andrew. Clinton cleaned up the FEMA mess and the guy he appointed to run the agency was previously the Arkansas state director of Emergency Management.
By the end of Witt's tenure at FEMA, the agency had been completely transformed. Staff morale was high, response plans were in place and FEMA enjoyed a reputation for competence and professionalism. Government representatives from other countries regularly trekked to FEMA seeking to learn the agency's formula for success....

By the time Witt stepped down at the end of the Clinton administration in January 2001, FEMA was a rare federal agency that enjoyed high regard from the public and high morale among its own staff. When I was asked at the time how FEMA would fare under President-elect George W, Bush, I stated what seemed obvious to many within FEMA: Nothing much was likely to change. Republicans and Democrats alike had come to appreciate the value of a professionally managed, competent emergency management agency. FEMA was a smooth-running machine and all George Bush need do was to appoint a competent, experienced Republican emergency manager to take over from Witt. FEMA would continue to function and would never again sink to the level of incompetence and disrepute it had experienced in the 1980s.

Or so I thought.
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Author:
LEO BOSNER

Leo Bosner was an employee of FEMA from 1979 until his retirement in 2008. At the time of his retirement, he was president of the FEMA Headquarters employees' union, AFGE Local 4060.
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Civet said:
Easy for me to say since I've never been in the situation, but I'd probably just drive someplace outside of the danger zone and sleep in the car if I had to. No idea what I'd do if I lacked access to transportation during an event like this.
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Its a bad situation. I know that the surrounding communities, like my area (which just barely dodged this) have opened up shelters and there were buses for the people who don't have transportation. Seems the bulk of people wound up in San Antonio and a smaller group came here to the RGV. I think the safer bet was here in the RGV since we only got one band come through on Thursday and nothing after that. San Antonio is going to get pummeled with rain and it floods very easily up there.
 
Varanid said:
This just isn't possible for many.

Hell, my wife and I are working class and have two cars, but we'd never in a million years be able to afford to go stay in a hotel for weeks. There are plenty of people lower than us on the socioeconomic ladder, and I am sure many would have even fewer options.

I don't really know what I'd do. We'd probably grab the dog and get in the car, but that would represent the beginning of our problems, not the end.
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It is shocking, because downtown areas along the coast are already expecting 30". The FEMA (is that right?) should have declared a state of emergency and carried out an official evacuation.

I hope you and your wife and dog are safe, Varanid.

Do let us know.

There is a live stream here on ABC News of the Houston area:

http://abc13.com/live/23374/
 
Right.

I don't know what we can do to help. But we have folks willing to go for you.

We have weapons, even if they aren't useful now.
 
Civet said:
Easy for me to say since I've never been in the situation, but I'd probably just drive someplace outside of the danger zone and sleep in the car if I had to. No idea what I'd do if I lacked access to transportation during an event like this.
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People have to decide to leave when that is such a difficult decision. But I'm looking at all those underwater cars and wondering why people didn't at least drive their cars to higher ground.
 
Vixen said:
It is shocking, because downtown areas along the coast are already expecting 30". The FEMA (is that right?) should have declared a state of emergency and carried out an official evacuation.

I hope you and your wife and dog are safe, Varanid.

Do let us know.

There is a live stream here on ABC News of the Houston area:

http://abc13.com/live/23374/
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And, pray tell, do you evacuate >6.6 million people in < 36 hours?

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Vixen said:
It is shocking, because downtown areas along the coast are already expecting 30". The FEMA (is that right?) should have declared a state of emergency and carried out an official evacuation.

I hope you and your wife and dog are safe, Varanid.

Do let us know.

There is a live stream here on ABC News of the Houston area:


http://abc13.com/live/23374/
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You just cannot evacuate 6.1 Million people.,,the population of greater Houston.


New Orleans had a much smaller population.

I think a lot of people in Europe don't get how big a city Houston is.

Think of trying to evacuate London, and you have a rough equivalent.
 
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