The Heiwa Challenge

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beachnut said:
LOL - you were proved wrong on 911 before you made up your delusional physics to make up your moronic axiom. I thought your delusions were being published; what happen?
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Yea, what's up with your paper you submitted anyway, Heiwa? Heard anything?
 
Edx said:
I take it the structure stays up with the piece you removed stil intact?
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absolutely

actually sometimes i would remove a little and i would only collapse locally or not at all
but there is a point where the results are catastrophic and it always came straight down

that model is about 2100 pieces if IIRC
i took out about 20 - 30 pieces

there another collapse where i took out the bottom of a smaller model that kinda fell down and to the side
(wow someone reported the audio i used)

(ouch, 20-7 yanks mid of the 9th sorry tri)
 
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JohnG said:
Evidently. You're starting to remind me of the creepy kid Billy Mumy played in that Twilight Zone episode. Just think; a few thousand more clicks of the mouse and all you'll have left to converse with here are the people who unconditionally agree with everything you say. All two of them.

Personally I think the Ignore function is sort of childish and counterproductive. Doesn't it make a thread hard to follow when you don't know half of what is being said? Surely even people you object to are capable of the odd useful insight or pearl of wisdom?
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If that is the sum total of what you want to say then you are evidently a very dull person, welcome to my ignore list.
 
Justin39640 said:
absolutely

actually sometimes i would remove a little and i would only collapse locally or not at all
but there is a point where the results are catastrophic and it always came straight down

that model is about 2100 pieces if IIRC
i took out about 20 - 30 pieces

there another collapse where i took out the bottom of a smaller model that kinda fell down and to the side
(wow someone reported the audio i used)

(ouch, 20-7 yanks mid of the 9th sorry tri)
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All you have to do is read the specification. Your scenario does not meet the Heiwa challenge conditions but, interestingly it does show what Heiwa predicts.

You undermined it at approximately 20 floors down and the structure CRUSHED UP as well as crushing down destroying 10 floors and leaving 2 floors intact.

Extrapolating your data to the Heiwa specification, would predict that with 20 floors falling into 180 (1/9th C) the collapse would be arrested at the 170th floor.

I'm sure your resident experts will be able to point out the other obvious problems with your model.
 
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releaseeabode said:
All you have to do is read the specification. Your scenario does not meet the Heiwa challenge conditions but, interestingly it does show what Heiwa predicts.

You undermined it at approximately 20 floors down and the structure CRUSHED UP as well as crushing down destroying 10 floors and leaving 2 floors intact.

Extrapolating your data to the Heiwa specification, would predict that with 20 floors falling into 180 (1/9th C) the collapse would be arrested at the 170th floor.

I'm sure your resident experts will be able to point out the other obvious problems with your model.
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Heiwa uses pizza boxes Gage uses cardboard boxes I sense a convergence in the force.
 
releaseeabode said:
All you have to do is read the specification. Your scenario does not meet the Heiwa challenge conditions but, interestingly it does show what Heiwa predicts.
(snip)
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based on what ive seen out there
my model is leaps and bounds above what truthers built
check out these laughable models
(and he seriously thought he made a scientific model)

yes my models have many flaws but it wasnt a scientific model
it was just to show how big things collapse (straight down)
it crushed down half of the remaining structure

and according to heiwa NONE of the floors below collapse should fail
even in the south tower as he says a crush down is impossible in ANY structure (this is a 911 forum not an insane engineer's game forum. ill put that out there before you say "this is about the N tower!1!!!11!!1")
 
Justin39640 said:
based on what ive seen out there
my model is leaps and bounds above what truthers built
check out these laughable models
(and he seriously thought he made a scientific model)

yes my models have many flaws but it wasnt a scientific model
it was just to show how big things collapse (straight down)
it crushed down half of the remaining structure

and according to heiwa NONE of the floors below collapse should fail
even in the south tower as he says a crush down is impossible in ANY structure (this is a 911 forum not an insane engineer's game forum. ill put that out there before you say "this is about the N tower!1!!!11!!1")
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I just commented on the video there. My comment is currently "pending approval", but I somehow doubt it will ever see the light of day.
 
JohnG said:
I just commented on the video there. My comment is currently "pending approval", but I somehow doubt it will ever see the light of day.
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that guy got all angry at me for the comments i left on his video
check out the comment he left on my homepage lol
WatchThemWiggle (1 month ago) said:
More and more people are learning the truth about 9/11. I personally get people everyday who thank me for my model. In town I meet people all the time who have finally broken free from the bull**** Jew Mass Media.

Good luck spreading your lies and disinformation its not working anymore.
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interesting how it always comes back to that no matter the subject (sigh)
 
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Justin39640 said:
based on what ive seen out there
my model is leaps and bounds above what truthers built
check out these laughable models
(and he seriously thought he made a scientific model)

yes my models have many flaws but it wasnt a scientific model
it was just to show how big things collapse (straight down)
it crushed down half of the remaining structure

and according to heiwa NONE of the floors below collapse should fail
even in the south tower as he says a crush down is impossible in ANY structure (this is a 911 forum not an insane engineer's game forum. ill put that out there before you say "this is about the N tower!1!!!11!!1")
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I don't think Heiwa has ever said that none of the floors below should have collapsed? If he has then he is clearly wrong. Also, I think you'll find that he is saying crush down is not possible without crush up.

I like your model by the way. Not sure what you mean by "(this is a 911 forum not an insane engineer's game forum. ill put that out there before you say "this is about the N tower!1!!!11!!1")". Can you elaborate?
 
releaseeabode said:
I don't think Heiwa has ever said that none of the floors below should have collapsed? If he has then he is clearly wrong. Also, I think you'll find that he is saying crush down is not possible without crush up.
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If that were what he was saying, then none of it would lead to the conclusion that the WTC collapses could not have happened. Heiwa has always claimed that, irrespective of the collapse mode, the strength of the structure as built and the level of collapse initiation, the collapse must have arrested, because he believes crush-down to be impossible. That comes under your definition of "clearly wrong".

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
If that were what he was saying, then none of it would lead to the conclusion that the WTC collapses could not have happened. Heiwa has always claimed that, irrespective of the collapse mode, the strength of the structure as built and the level of collapse initiation, the collapse must have arrested, because he believes crush-down to be impossible. That comes under your definition of "clearly wrong".

Dave
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It seems you haven't studied http://heiwaco.tripod.com/mac5.htm ?

I like the picture that explains it, when gravity is ignored:

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It is like a ship collision! Little part C propelled by a FORCE impacts part A and the FORCE is also applied to part A. But part A also applies a REACTION FORCE on part C ... that will be deformed. And if C damages A, A will for sure damage C. This typical process supports my famous axiom!!
 
OH Heiwa...

I understand why you don't understand the collapse of the towers now..
you are looking at them in the WRONG WAY. Rotate the picture 90 degrees counterclockwise.

It will help a lot.
 
TruthersLie said:
OH Heiwa...

I understand why you don't understand the collapse of the towers now..
you are looking at them in the WRONG WAY. Rotate the picture 90 degrees counterclockwise.

It will help a lot.
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Of course - then you do not have to apply a force on part C as gravity takes care of that. Here, you have to apply the force yourself on part C ... and think for yourself at the same time.

Actually - if you really apply a force on part C, it will accelerate for ever ... until another force acts on part C. Imagine that! Little Joe applies a force on something like part C and it accelerates for ever ... unless!

Now, apply your thinking instead. It may help. You may learn something!
 
Heiwa said:
As the founder of The Heiwa Challenge I have decided to terminate it. ...
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A lie just like the million dollars and your moronic axiom. Did you decide this after you woke up from passing out and forgot you terminated the challenge?

You terminated your delusional challenge after 7 years, 11 months, and 12 days of super stupid axioms and dirt dumb engineering where gravity is ignored.

So is your delusional challenged proved wrong on 911 terminated or are you still on your quest to be the most delusional engineer on earth?
 
Heiwa said:
Of course - then you do not have to apply a force on part C as gravity takes care of that. Here, you have to apply the force yourself on part C ... and think for yourself at the same time.

Actually - if you really apply a force on part C, it will accelerate for ever ... until another force acts on part C. Imagine that! Little Joe applies a force on something like part C and it accelerates for ever ... unless!

Now, apply your thinking instead. It may help. You may learn something!
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Is this supposed to make sense?
 
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