Meadmaker
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But that is exactly the basis of the existence of most countries and nations throughout the world. "People like me used to live here, as did their children, and their children's children...all the way until they got to me. And my children will own it when I am dead." In some cases, like Israel, there are long breaks in the middle part, yet Israelis nonetheless believe that they own the land they are on because "people like me used to live here." So agree or not with the legitimacy of this concept, it appears to be the approach that underlies most of how people have assigned geography.
And that's working out pretty well for everyone involved, eh?
I'm not a big fan of sacred dirt. It gets everyone all riled up over nothing.
I had thought that there were environmental issues involved with the telescope and/or its construction on Mauna Kea. I'm very sympathetic to those concerns, but "sacred land?" Meh.
As for "ownership", we can't go back an right every wrong in history and find an original owner or their descendants and give things back. Yes, white people took over the Hawaiian Islands. It happened a long time ago. Somewhere in the intervening century plus, a legal framework was worked out where people born there had full rights, and they can move anywhere in the US, and anyone in the US can move there, and somewhere there's an elected government that gets to decide on building permits. I don't feel like giving some special veto power to people with a particular sort of DNA.
