The Great Coverup.

[Thermal]

..I could have made a perfect fake, easy, instead I made a mistake because I thought I found a snippet of the Original Email on an old CD...

I don't think you could create a perfect fake. My reasoning for this is that you have not presented a single post without outrageous capitalization, punctuation, and grammar errors. Your retyping starts with "Here is My 2008 Email to Corsi", which solidifies that it is not in fact the original. You may have forgotten that you retyped it, but it is very obvious to the reader that it is in no way shape or form an original screen grab.

 

[Thermal]

1 is well known knowledge Recorded on this very forum, that you can find by a simple search. It's part of the history of jref.

2 I posted the Video made by a Member of this forum, and discussed on this very forum.

3LOL obviously Corsi wasn't going to Publish Jones work once Jones admitted Dr. Greening's-Appollo20's worked proved his microspheres matched common Fly Ash!


If you can't admit to well known facts, then there is no reason to continue this conversation and your points are debunked, for lack of knowledge on the Subject.

No, it's that I do not care in the slightest about those facts because they are utterly irrelevant to the subject at hand, and you are trying to change the subject because things are not going well for you.

Eta: you declare that my points are debunked, yet you have not even addressed them. That speaks volumes about how credible your claimed debunking of Corsi was

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

I don't think you could create a perfect fake. My reasoning for this is that you have not presented a single post without outrageous capitalization, punctuation, and grammar errors. Your retyping starts with "Here is My 2008 Email to Corsi", which solidifies that it is not in fact the original. You may have forgotten that you retyped it, but it is very obvious to the reader that it is in no way shape or form an original screen grab.

LOL it would only require I have a keyboard instead of this pad.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

No, it's that I do not care in the slightest about those facts because they are utterly irrelevant to the subject at hand, and you are trying to change the subject because things are not going well for you.

Eta: you declare that my points are debunked, yet you have not even addressed them. That speaks volumes about how credible your claimed debunking of Corsi was

They are absolutely Relevant, I was Involved in those Times and those discussions you were not.

 

[Thermal]

LOL it would only require I have a keyboard instead of this pad.

A pad has a keyboard that can be brought up. Most do, anyway. Yet thar changes nothing.

You started off with an introductory sentence of "Here is My 2008 Email to Corsi", which is not a screen grab. You entered that yourself. The rest is in the same font, which it wouldn't be if it were from the email client. You made a spacing error that wouldn't have occurred in an email header, and apparently we are expected to believe that Corsi makes the identical random capitalization that your posts are littered with. My dude, pretty much no one does that except you. You entered that text yourself. It was not a screen grab, as you claimed.

I.merely asked why you did that. Your highly evasive reply seems to be that you found this somewhere in your files and carelessly thought it was close enough and we'd all buy it. That has been shown to be a judgement error on your part. I suppose we should drop it now, as you seem to have no further excuse for doing so.

 

[Thermal]

They are absolutely Relevant, I was Involved in those Times and those discussions you were not.

A) you have no idea what I was or was not involved in, or followed along with. You only know this accounts screen name registration. That's a key mistake you make frequently, ie making assumptions without enough information.

B) Bringing up those discussions is you trying to change the subject. You'll note I have asked you nothing at all about them. I know where you are trying to steer the discussion, and neither I nor anyone else appear interested in your changing the subject until you address the questions put to you.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

A pad has a keyboard that can be brought up. Most do, anyway. Yet thar changes nothing.

You started off with an introductory sentence of "Here is My 2008 Email to Corsi", which is not a screen grab. You entered that yourself. The rest is in the same font, which it wouldn't be if it were from the email client. You made a spacing error that wouldn't have occurred in an email header, and apparently we are expected to believe that Corsi makes the identical random capitalization that your posts are littered with. My dude, pretty much no one does that except you. You entered that text yourself. It was not a screen grab, as you claimed.

I.merely asked why you did that. Your highly evasive reply seems to be that you found this somewhere in your files and carelessly thought it was close enough and we'd all buy it. That has been shown to be a judgement error on your part. I suppose we should drop it now, as you seem to have no further excuse for doing so.

It does if you have big really sore hands.

This is a direct Quote from the link.

P.S., 2/3/2008: I’ve been told, elsewhere, that the issues discussed by Apollo20 (Frank Greening) and “Crazy Cha"insaw” in this JREF thread are addressed in Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade Center destruction (PDF) by Steven E. Jones, Jeffrey Farrer, Gregory S. Jenkins, Frank Legge, James Gourley, Kevin Ryan, Daniel Farnsworth, and Crockett Grabbe, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Volume 19 – January 2008. (For a quick intro, see also this page on 9/11 blogger.) I’ll have to look at this later. In the meantime, I would be interested to see comments from others"

Also I found a Dirrect Reply about Frank and Me debunking Steven Jones!
https://activistnyc.wordpress.com/2...ter-mark-roberts-and-the-iron-rich-spherules/

 

[Thermal]

It does if you have big really sore hands.

This is a direct Quote from the link.

P.S., 2/3/2008: I’ve been told, elsewhere, that the issues discussed by Apollo20 (Frank Greening) and “Crazy Cha"insaw” in this JREF thread are addressed in Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade Center destruction (PDF) by Steven E. Jones, Jeffrey Farrer, Gregory S. Jenkins, Frank Legge, James Gourley, Kevin Ryan, Daniel Farnsworth, and Crockett Grabbe, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Volume 19 – January 2008. (For a quick intro, see also this page on 9/11 blogger.) I’ll have to look at this later. In the meantime, I would be interested to see comments from others"

Also I found a Dirrect Reply about Frank and Me debunking Steven Jones!
https://activistnyc.wordpress.com/2...ter-mark-roberts-and-the-iron-rich-spherules/

As always, it has nothing to do with anything being discussed HERE AND NOW. No one here gives a fig about Steven or Franky or any of these other characters.

 

[Craig4]

They have wanted me dead since 2008, now I am waiting for that last shoe to fall, my name Litterally means fierce Warrior, I never intend on surrendering peaceful to anything when my day does come, I intend to spit in deaths face.
I just hope before that day many years from now is upon me, I will see Accountability restored to our nation and stupidity cast out from the minds of Humanity.
I just hope the normal life span of my Family, late 90s to early hundreds will give me enough time.

You're probably rather safe. You lack the capacity to impact the election and no truth you could reveal would have any impact.

 

[theprestige]

Also I found a Dirrect Reply about Frank and Me debunking Steven Jones!
https://activistnyc.wordpress.com/2...ter-mark-roberts-and-the-iron-rich-spherules/

Frank, and you, and Gravy, and Max Photon...

Look, nobody is disputing that you were active in 9/11 threads on this forum, back in the day.

I'm disputing your claims of sufficient efficacy and notoriety that RTV would notice your efforts and that Corsi would care about your arguments.

Corsi obviously has no problem telling obvious lies and publishing debunked nonsense for profit. Even if you did call him up and tell him his microspheres nonsense was bunk, why would he care? He's obviously a bigger name than you are. He's obviously doing a better job publishing his bunk and getting paid, than you are at stopping him.

So no, I don't believe RTV called you to stop Corsi. And I don't believe Corsi stopped because of anything you said to him.

 

[Thermal]

I'm very confused at how I got up there.

 

[theprestige]

I'm very confused at how I got up there.

Sorry. That Was a Copy-paste of a Screenshot of an Aborted Multi-quote Reply That I Put Together With Tired Sore Hands on a Tablet Instead of a Proper Keyboard.

I've corrected it now.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Frank, and you, and Gravy, and Max Photon...

Look, nobody is disputing that you were active in 9/11 threads on this forum, back in the day.

I'm disputing your claims of sufficient efficacy and notoriety that RTV would notice your efforts and that Corsi would care about your arguments.

Corsi obviously has no problem telling obvious lies and publishing debunked nonsense for profit. Even if you did call him up and tell him his microspheres nonsense was bunk, why would he care? He's obviously a bigger name than you are. He's obviously doing a better job publishing his bunk and getting paid, than you are at stopping him.

So no, I don't believe RTV called you to stop Corsi. And I don't believe Corsi stopped because of anything you said to him.

Yes Corsi is very effective at publishing lies in World Net Daily. EXACTLY?
Seth Rich story was not the first Time Corsi distributed Russian Disinformation. Remember the Amero, Corsi tells lies that spread hate and divide Americans, the Russian just figured out somehow I had the information. I don't know from which website or Forum they got it, but they clearly didn't want Corsi exposed as a 9/11No Planer.
I don't think Rudy Giuliani would have said such nice things about Corsi if he knew what Corsi Told me about hanging Rudy from Lady Liberty's torch in New York Harbor.

If you can tell me from which website the Russians got the Information I would like to know.

Oh and the Email from Jones to Frank that I sent Corsi is still unpublished, as far as I know Jones quickly Tried back tracking on it.

 

[Thermal]

Sorry. That Was a Copy-paste of a Screenshot of an Aborted Multi-quote Reply That I Put Together With Tired Sore Hands on a Tablet Instead of a Proper Keyboard.

I've corrected it now.

*raises glass*

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

A) you have no idea what I was or was not involved in, or followed along with. You only know this accounts screen name registration. That's a key mistake you make frequently, ie making assumptions without enough information.

B) Bringing up those discussions is you trying to change the subject. You'll note I have asked you nothing at all about them. I know where you are trying to steer the discussion, and neither I nor anyone else appear interested in your changing the subject until you address the questions put to you.

Not at all I was just pointing out at the time I was one of the few with the information one of the Few in the Microspheres debate with Jones though their were others I was probably the easiest that could be found, as my phone Number and Email were on my website.

 

[Thermal]

Yes Corsi is very effective at publishing lies in World Net Daily. EXACTLY?
Seth Rich story was not the first Time Corsi distributed Russian Disinformation. Remember the Amero, Corsi tells lies that spread hate and divide Americans, the Russian just figured out somehow I had the information. I don't know from which website or Forum they got it, but they clearly didn't want Corsi exposed as a 9/11No Planer.
I don't think Rudy Giuliani would have said such nice things about Corsi if he knew what Corsi Told me about hanging Rudy from Lady Liberty's torch in New York Harbor.

If you can tell me from which website the Russians got the Information I would like to know.

What information? All you have presented are vague allusions. We don't even know what "they" are alleged to have known, other than that Corsi was working on a crackpot theory book that was well known at the time. "They" could have gotten that information from literally anywhere.

Even regarding who "they" are- you say it was some cat called Dmitry calling you from a TV show, and you couldn't understand him. What is your evidence that he was not a lone crank himself? After all, nothing came of his "call". As far as you have recounted, it was nothing more than a drunk dial.

Eta: even better, please explain why Dmitry thought you had influence over Corsi, when the relationship you had with him (based on your own recountings) was brief, unfriendly, and likely sarcastic, not to memtion entirely private. El Drunko Dmitry had no knowledge of you and Corsi having that very brief and ambiguous email exchange

 

[Thermal]

Not at all I was just pointing out at the time I was one of the few with the information one of the Few in the Microspheres debate with Jones though their were others I was probably the easiest that could be found, as my phone Number and Email were on my website.

You are just jumping to a conclusion you like. The information you talk about would not lead some Russian TV guy to think you had influence over Corsi.

Based on that alone, your whole conspiracy theory falls apart.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

What information? All you have presented are vague allusions. We don't even know what "they" are alleged to have known, other than that Corsi was working on a crackpot theory book that was well known at the time. "They" could have gotten that information from literally anywhere.

Even regarding who "they" are- you say it was some cat called Dmitry calling you from a TV show, and you couldn't understand him. What is your evidence that he was not a lone crank himself? After all, nothing came of his "call". As far as you have recounted, it was nothing more than a drunk dial.

That Jones Himself Believed the Microspheres he found were most likely Flyash. I told Jones they were probably from the same waste incinerators as the Microspheres in the concrete, but it would take some time to find the exact source. Which I now know was the Sponge Iron in the Welding Rod Flux.

If he was a crank he called me from RTV Moscow in Russia.
He gave me Corsi's phone number and Email address at that Time I didn't know Corsi was connected to Infowars at all just that he talked to Dr. Jones.
I am still a member of the Facebook group Carving Friends Russia, and once and a while even with the war on over their get contacted by someone who remembers I showed then how to set up and use a dime nose carving bar in the educational video I lent RTV.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

You are just jumping to a conclusion you like. The information you talk about would not lead some Russian TV guy to think you had influence over Corsi.

Based on that alone, your whole conspiracy theory falls apart.

That's your assumption I didn't need Influence over Corsi, he had a Huge Right wing Following, proclaiming himself a 9/11No Planer then having it debunked, would have destroyed that, he fears the truth will come out even now.

 

[Thermal]

That Jones Himself Believed the Microspheres he found were most likely Flyash. I told Jones they were probably from the same waste incinerators as the Microspheres in the concrete, but it would take some time to find the exact source. Which I now know was the Sponge Iron in the Welding Rod Flux.

If he was a crank he called me from RTV Moscow in Russia.
He gave me Corsi's phone number and Email address at that Time I didn't know Corsi was connected to Infowars at all just that he talked to Dr. Jones.
I am still a member of the Facebook group Carving Friends Russia, and once and a while even with the war on over their get contacted by someone who remembers I showed then how to set up and use a dime nose carving bar in the educational video I lent RTV.

OK, no bobbing and weaving: you are saying that you didn't even have the famed email exchange with corsi yet, but the lone Russian TV guy thought you influenced corsi, who you literally had never even contacted in any way?